I was trying to think of what the top retired beers would be and how they would fit in the Top 250. The ones I was able to come up with (over 100 reviews and using the Top 250 formula): Rare - WR=4.644 (approximately #2 or #3) KH - 4.564 (#9) Armand Spring - 4.461 (#25) Kate - 4.449 (#30) BCBVS - 4.417 (#37) DDG - 4.414 (#39) Armand Summer - 4.331 (#80) Deviation - 4.324 (#90) Cuir - 4.294 (#110) Wanderer - 4.189 (#250) Any others that folks can think of? I'm sure there's more, but I was surprised there were so few retired beers that would be in the Top 250.
I think at one point there was a top retired list here on BA that was pretty cool to see but it wasn't around long. I think Deviation and Izzy were at the top. It's crazy to think some of those beers on your list would be so low on the new top beers list! Must be the number of reviews?
Neither have 100 ratings, but with the adjusted rating: M would be at 4.095 and Dave would be at 3.926
Blauw is one I missed with over 100 ratings, it'd be at weighted rating of 4.266 (around #135) Black Biscuit is another I missed, 4.286 (around #120)
Most of the beers on the whale list would qualify. Some are on there for absurd rarity, but most are very highly rated.
Yeah, but they don't have 100 reviews because of absurd rarity, which is often the case with great retired beers. To qualify and be retired, a beer has to have either been an enormous release (Rare) or a small annual release that was killed after quite a few years (Kate).
I completely agree, I was just applying the current Top 250 formula to some retired beers. I'm sure a better formula could applied for rare/whale beers.