What does it take to land a CBS?

Maybe this is not the right forum, but I want to ask this to the fellows who got some bottles across the pond.

So tell me what ammo should I use?

thx Mark

The usual Mark, Heineken old brown! Honestly no idea. I had some for Westvleteren 12.

Thijs

Then again you are of that rare species that manages to get everything for Westy 12. Tuppence I say, tuppence!

CBS shouldn't be too hard Mark. They act all dramatic over waiting lists and stuff, but in the end it's roughly on par with Black Tuesday. Fou Foune should pretty much do it, even though it's hit the US by now. At least as part of a bigger trade, it's still fair from a $4$ perspective.

Have you tried to offer a SNR10?
If you want Maple beer also try Lawsons Maple Stout.
Some Canadian guy I know brought it over to my house once and it was brilliant.

THx guys,

For one reason or another, this thread was remove by Todd.

I traded CBS for a BA Speedway a couple times, seemed pretty even to me

Holy shit dude, that's a heavy gun

On par with BT? Unlikely from what I hear, but possible. Additionally, BT in 2012 and 2011 has been "widely" available enough to allow pretty much anyone with a computer and the knowhow to be on at 12pm on the right day to purchase it. People spent hours driving to find CBS to come up empty handed and BT is much easier to trade for right now. Fou Foune may grab it but BT certainly will not grab CBS (if it did, you would see a ton of ISO FT trades for it right now).

Coming from Europe, CBS will probably require some heavy hitters. I'd think Armand and Tommy may get it due to it not being available in the U.S. Anything by narke should manage, blabaer should get it done and SNR10 should do it as well. Fou Foune could probably be obtained without international shipping so even though it may grab CBS, if someone can get it without paying the excessive overseas shipping they are going to.

Good luck

I did BCBS Vanilla for a CBS, FYI

I traded an 09 bcbs bomber, though technically I sent that bottle to someone who sent a kuhnehnn raspberry eisbock to the person that sent me the CBS.

Traded a CBS for Barrel Aged Yeti a little while back.

Hopefully you got a good bottle, I traded for a BA Yeti and it was infected.

For what it is worth, we popped a CBS recently and it was a shell of its former self. Very little barrel/maple character. Not a total disapointment, just not the same.

Very Infected unfortunately but a risk I guess we all take as traders.

I traded a FouFoune for CBS last year. That was a domestic US trade.

Our tasting group didn't think too much of the Founders then.

Yeah, A&T seems like an adequate guess. I got my bottle in a trade this big that I can't even remember if it was a glorified extra or a 1:1 for one of the three A&Ts I sent out. I think Blabaer might be a little over the top, maybe a 375. I never considered CBS to be *that* big a problem, but I might be underestimating a little. It's also not as hyped as most of the other big stouts seem to be. How does the CBS release work? It's just basically a brewery-only release that gets sold out so quickly that they have to put people on a waiting list?

It wasn't brewery only, it was distributed to all of founder's market. The big issue with obtaining it is the press it got and that it was only released one time. It's consistently in the top 5 "best beers" on this and most other beer review sites. As a result, people went crazy trying to get a bottle. There is no date on when (or if) it will be released next so the release from a year and a half ago is the only release. I'm not sure about in europe, but in the U.S. its almost as hyped as most other big stouts that were released one time like BCBS Rare. Its not released every year so you don't see the "where do I find X" beer threads for CBS like you do for KBS or BCBS but thats ony because the answer to where do I find CBS is nowhere atm. It's the massive awareness combined with the one limited release that makes it hard to get: Everyone wants one and its hard to obtain.
Cheers

I had two bottles left - gave one to a friend because he's a mensch, and the other I traded for a Hardywood GBS gift pack(two bottles and two glasses), with a couple extras on my end to even out the $4$.

i got one a couple months ago for some cigar city stuff...i went over $4$ but the limited availability of CBS forced me to give up some more bottles. i think i gave up marshall zhukov, moat water, and Imperial sweet stout aged in cognc barrels for 1 cbs...guy hooked me up with 2 KBS though, and he also sent me some goose isand stuff and i have to recoup later on...all in all, i made a friend and get to try a beer that is not brewed ever year. i am happy...just have to find a day to pop that bottle.

I had the CBS before and there is no way that I am going to trade insane quantities or rarer bottles for it. Thanks for all the advice though. I feel a wiser man

When CBS was worth trading for I traded BT11 for it 1 for 1 three times. I would no longer make this trade as CBS is not the beer it was, and I'd guess this is why you don't see it happening these days.

Edit: posting from my phone sucks.

I think people value CBS higher tha BT 2011.

I guess the value of BT may have decreased slightly since 2011 due to it being released again and in bigger numbers. I don't think you could land CBS with a BT 11 or 12.

I agree that many people think this. I also think that many who actually care how beer tastes do not.

Well I care how beer tastes, and neither black tuesday nor CBS are my thing. I have 1 BT 2011, and 1 CBS I value the CBS higher

If your trading for a CBS, insist on it being as fresh as possible. This is NOT a beer that I consider as aging well.

sadly, they've only done a big bottle release once so the OPs options are limited in terms of freshness

I had it both on draft, fresh and a 6 month old bottle. The draft killed it!

I drank my bottle 2 months after release and had another bottle 10 months after release. Completely agree with you! Fresh was way way better. Now if I could try it on tap.... :homer drooling sound:

I'm hoping Armbsy Abbey still has a couple of kegs kicking around for StoutFest this year. I missed out on last year's Founders Breakfast and I won't be making the same mistake this year!

They get new kegs of it every year I believe.

I think that's a rule of thumb for Founders. So far, what I've tasted fresh has absolutely destroyed anything aged. Would need to try more of their stuff, as I've only gotten round to their stouts and Devil Dancer TIPA.

How can you insist on the CBS being as fresh as possible? CBS has only been bottled once.

You completely missed the point. If it ain't fresh, don't trade the farm for it!

Bolt Cutter has me thinking that age could do it worlds of wonder. I liked the pineapple flavor, but the heat was too much!

Anyone who thinks that a CBS is near the value of Blabaer is either high or has an interest in the market thinking they're comparable bottles.

Hell Fou'Foune isn't either, or Vignerrone...or LP Framboise...of Cuvée St. Gilloise.

I so wish that was true.

I don't think cbs would fetch blabaer, but in terms of getting someone to ship overseas, it takes more than whatever you could get in the u.s.