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Value of Bolt Cutter, others

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by Dyalango, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. Dyalango

    Dyalango Aficionado (195) District of Columbia Oct 23, 2012 Verified

    I have 2 extra Bolt Cutters and have a lot of BCBS, backwoods bastard and some other barrel aged stuff. I'm new to trading and am trying to figure out what it would take to land BA Dark Lord's or BA Huna, or anything similar. Anyone have some insight?
  2. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Michigan Jan 8, 2011

    So you have some semi rare, off the shelf barrel aged stuff, and you want to know how many of those it will take to get rare non off the shelf barrel aged stuff? 5 to 7:1 ratio.
  3. davey101

    davey101 Champion (820) Connecticut Apr 14, 2009

    You're not very close to either of those. There's a reason why you have so much bolt cutter and BCBS. It trades on par with equally accesible beers. BA huna and darklord will demand equally rare brewery only releases. You could probably get a standard darklord with your beer...but of course someone with darklord could easily buy all that stuff.
  4. Bluecane

    Bluecane Initiate (0) New York Dec 30, 2011

    There are 4 other threads about what Bolt Cutter is trading for; do a little research.
  5. cavedave

    cavedave Poobah (1,060) New York Mar 12, 2009 Verified

    Both those beers taste better than anything you are likely to get in trade. I'm assuming you like the styles or you wouldn't have bought them.
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  6. Gosox8787

    Gosox8787 Savant (465) New Hampshire Jan 24, 2009 Verified

    BA Huna or BA DL are really hard to get brewery only beers. You have some nice beers there that are pretty readily accessible but they are not on that level at all. I would try to compile some more reasonable wants. Do a little research and you should be able to find something you want that is realistic for those beers.
  7. Dyalango

    Dyalango Aficionado (195) District of Columbia Oct 23, 2012 Verified

    Understood they're rare and certainly of more value than what I have, just trying to determine a reasonable ask. Thanks for input.

    Apologies for multiple thread.
  8. I can't wait till 2-4 years from now when BA's will be begging and sucking each other off for a Bolt Cutter! LOL! Just my humble opinion tho!
  9. camil1mj

    camil1mj Savant (450) Michigan Oct 4, 2010 Verified

    Says the guy who bought a bunch of bottles in NY when it got released early. Judging from the reactions to BC so far I would say the chances of it becoming highly desired in 2-4 years are slim to none.
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  10. TWStandley

    TWStandley Champion (785) Massachusetts Jan 15, 2008 Verified

    After consuming a Bolt Cutter - I am not sure any trade for it is worth it....hell, it's not even worth the shipping cost. Total bust IMHO.
  11. Like I give a rat's ass about what others think about what I like or don't! LOL! I bought a few because people asked me to... and I have a couple to age. I'm totally cool with that!!! It's a Great Beer, and I am really looking forward to it's development!
  12. ISO: Bolt Cutter FT: Stuff you think it's worse than

    I'll take all I can get!
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  13. camil1mj

    camil1mj Savant (450) Michigan Oct 4, 2010 Verified

    I didn't make any comment about wether you liked it or not. We are all welcome to like whatever we want. I commented on you saying people are going to be sucking eachother off for bottles of it in two years. I disagree with you in that regard. That is all.
  14. Just like any beer... We'll see! ;) On my behalf I am a NY Met fan... sooooooo... Hey, we have David "Dumbass" Wright locked up for what will seem like EVER!!! LOL!
  15. I just have a really good feeling about this brew... I've had fresh and 5-10 year old BW's/Quads/Stouts/Bock's, and IMHO... the oldie almost always kills the fresh-faced young brew! It's something else completely... I get that!
  16. augustg

    augustg Savant (325) Illinois Sep 15, 2011 Verified

    Couldn't agree more on the BC. A great beer now and will likely develop into something better over time. Pretty much off the shelves at this point so trade for it BEFORE the trade value ends up where it eventually will be.
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  17. Wish I didn't have to wait for the earth to revolve around the sun 10 times for my Bolt Cutter to taste good :(
  18. Bluecane

    Bluecane Initiate (0) New York Dec 30, 2011

    I lol'd.
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  19. davey101

    davey101 Champion (820) Connecticut Apr 14, 2009

    In 2-4 years we will have 2-400 more "Bolt Cutter" like beers. True whales will finally go extinct. We will sound like old farts talking about threads like this while the newbies auction off their small batch empty-PVW-bottle aged chili lagers. BC will be forgotten, just as deca has.
  20. iadler

    iadler Savant (450) Illinois Aug 12, 2009 Verified

    OP, if you are new to trading, I wouldn't start with trying to land BA DL or BA Huna as those bottles are difficult to obtain. Start small with maybe trading some locals for locals and then work your way up. I've had some trading buddies where we have started local for locals and then started receiving beer I never thought I would try as we continued trading. Just my .02.
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  21. thegoon55

    thegoon55 Advocate (525) Massachusetts Oct 27, 2012 Verified

    Trading non whalez for whalez!?!? You must be insane in the membrane!!
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  22. nc41

    nc41 Champion (855) North Carolina Sep 25, 2008 Verified

    I was in Waterbury CT over the weekend, and there's something like 6 cases to be had at 3 different locations. The whole Triad area here didn't get anything close to that amount, maybe they figured with guys sucking up great stuff in VT unloading a lot of BC would be a cinch. Not working out that way.
  23. youradhere

    youradhere Advocate (530) Washington Feb 29, 2008 Verified

    Ya know, I thought the same thing on here when 2008 Angels Share came out, that in several years it would be trading like crazy once it mellowed out. <looks left, looks right> Nope, just another subpar beer lost to history.

    Bolt Clutter lacks the body to last; like most Founders beer it is too thin to carry the flavors any length of time, and will be an overpriced imitation of a winter warmer in two years.
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  25. lurchingbeast

    lurchingbeast Initiate (0) Illinois Feb 19, 2009

    How is a yearly release with multiple QC issues depending on the year even remotely comparable to Bolt Cutter?

    Says the man with 0 Bolt Cutters.
  26. hmm. first review of bolt cutter:


    if all you cared about was how it tasted, why are you talking it up in a trade value thread?
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  27. Demer

    Demer Savant (270) New Jersey Dec 13, 2010 Verified

    Seems like everyone purchased Bolt Cutter just to trade judging by the FT forum.
  28. youradhere

    youradhere Advocate (530) Washington Feb 29, 2008 Verified

    Yep, and will stay that way. After trying KBS, Backwoods Bastard, and a few others I've easily forgotten, I've found I don't like what Founders is putting out. Ergo, I have not, and will not trade for it. I did however get to try it first thing this weekend, and it was unanimously found to not live up to any hype. Lots of phenols, thin body, anticlimactic really- like most Founders. But I'm sure you and every other BA out there with an armful of the stuff will sing its praises for months to come. Let me know how that stuff is doing in two years, I'm sure you will find it "epically sublime" or some such nonesense.

    Back to the point of value- it may as well be counted as shelf whale for the moment. After which it will settle possibly at Abyss levels in releases.
  29. youradhere

    youradhere Advocate (530) Washington Feb 29, 2008 Verified

    I hope you were kidding...internets doesn't show sarcasm well...
  30. lurchingbeast

    lurchingbeast Initiate (0) Illinois Feb 19, 2009

    I meant I have 0 bottles of Bolt Cutter.

    And I think your opinion on Founders as a whole is insane, even if I also didn't care for Bolt Cutter. Then again I might have to revisit BC since your thoughts on Founders are way off IMO.

    and you for some reason thought Angel's Share '08 would have any real trade value EVER.
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  32. Thanks for your insight, JeffK
  33. paulys55

    paulys55 Advocate (735) Pennsylvania Aug 2, 2010 Verified

    I'm assuming he meant that the earth revolves around the sun once a year.
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  35. ChadQuest

    ChadQuest Initiate (0) Illinois Mar 4, 2009

    Oh i get it you live on a different planet.

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  36. youradhere

    youradhere Advocate (530) Washington Feb 29, 2008 Verified

    Yes, because 10 revolutions around our sun on this planet is roughly equivalent to ten years. :) some fuzzy or buzzed math there...
  37. yep, but the joke is that subpoenadeuces is pretending to be a common idiot who confused the concept of heliocentric orbit with axial rotation. unfortunately, as is common in such jokery, he has convinced many readers that he is the genuine article.
  38. youradhere

    youradhere Advocate (530) Washington Feb 29, 2008 Verified

    Yep, back in 2008 when Lost Abbey was today's it-girl I honestly did. People are wrong sometimes, no?

    And I truly don't like Founders. Nothing has wowed me to this date and isn't worth the effort to obtain it to me. It's like trading for an equivalent of Seven Seas or something. Good for you liking them, they just font float my boat. Get over it.
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  39. youradhere

    youradhere Advocate (530) Washington Feb 29, 2008 Verified

    K good, this makes me feel better :). On a side note- I had a friend do something similar a lot in high school, it was funny, until they put him in a special Ed class lol. We all had a good laugh for a semester except for him.
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  40. valdieu2

    valdieu2 Savant (345) Maine Feb 23, 2012

    Just what I was thinking