So im upgrading to AG, and was looking for some advice on some equipment im looking to buy. For my Mash Tun im converting a 10 gal beverage cooler from Home Depot, so no real questions on that. For my Kettle im thinking about getting this 8 gal with valve and thermometer... http://www.amazon.com/Beer-Brewing-...1358628006&sr=1-5&keywords=10 gal brew kettle They also make a 10 gal one that is essentially the same (except for a better thermometer) for $20 more... http://www.homebrewstuff.com/10-gallon-kettle-w-valve-thermometer.html You think its worth it for the extra 2 gals and the thermometer upgrade? Do any of you guys have these kettles? How do you like them? Im also looking to upgrade my cooling system. Was originally going to go with a 70ft copper immersion chiller... http://www.amazon.com/Efficient-Chi...1358628478&sr=8-1&keywords=70 ft wort chiller Then was thinking maybe a 25ft counterflow chiller would be better for just a little more... http://www.amazon.com/Super-Efficie...8574&sr=1-2&keywords=counterflow wort chiller And now am thinking about going for a plate chiller that seems pretty reasonably priced... http://www.amazon.com/B3-12A-Plate-...&qid=1358628831&sr=8-2&keywords=plate chiller Would end up getting this from the Duda Diesel website for $95 shipped. For those of you who have plate chillers do you use a pump? Do you think a pump is necessary, or can you have success with gravity feed? Really not trying to go with a plate chiller if I need the added expense of a pump. Any thoughts, recommendations, feedback is greatly appreciated.