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The Averagely Perfect American IPA Project - Poll #4 - Choose 2 Row Base

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Jan 12, 2013.


Choose the Specific Two-Row, Pale Ale, or Pilsner Base Malt

Poll closed Jan 14, 2013.
  1. North American 2-Row Brewer's Malt

  2. North American Pale Ale Malt

  3. Maris Otter

  4. Golden Promise

  5. Optic

    0 vote(s)
  6. German Pale Ale Malt

    0 vote(s)
  7. Belgian Pale Ale Malt

    0 vote(s)
  8. North American Pilsner Malt

    0 vote(s)
  9. Continental Pilsner Malt

  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Champion (930) Pennsylvania Jul 12, 2009 Verified

    Now we'll pick a more specific base malt among the Generic 2-Row, Pale Ale, and Pilsner malts. This poll will be a straight plurality vote, i.e. most votes wins, whether it's a majority or not. If you are concerned that votes for the general type of malt you prefer might be split between two similar malts, consider jumping on a bandwagon with your vote.

    This poll will only be open for 48 hours. Based on the first one, almost all the votes happened in that timeframe.

    If you don't know what this thread is about, please see this thread...

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please Beer Mail me. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand (not about how you would have asked the question differently). Thanks!

    The Averagely Perfect American IPA Recipe so far...
    5 Gallons
    Target ABV: 6.5%
    Target OG: 1.062
    Target FG: 1.012
    Generic Two Row, or Pale Ale, or Pilsner Malt (specific choice pending)
    Carapils pending
    Other Crystal(s) pending
    Munich pending
    Sugar/Honey pending
    Wheat Malt pending
  2. Warminster floor malted MO baby!
    tronester likes this.
  3. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Champion (810) Texas May 21, 2010

    I went with regular 2-row cuz it's cheeper at my local home brew store. :D
  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Champion (750) Wisconsin Aug 13, 2005 Verified

    As said elsewhere, I've always blended base malt blends in IPAs, including Rahr 2-row pale, Briess pale Ale Malt, Weyermann and Castle Pils, Weyermann Munich. The one I liked the most had 58% Castle Pils in it, hence my vote. But honestly, not a strong preference.
  5. kjyost

    kjyost Champion (775) Manitoba (Canada) May 4, 2008 Verified

    OK before I vote, WTF is the difference between NA 2-Row / Pils & Pale Ale malts?

    At my LHBS I can only buy NA 2-Row (which they call Pilsner).
  6. ryane

    ryane Savant (390) Washington Nov 21, 2007

    Normally Id choose MO, but I jumped on the Golden Promise bandwagon. Theres just nothing like the malt depth of those english grains in an IPA - dont even need a crystal when using them
  7. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Advocate (535) Minnesota May 11, 2007

    Love GP in an IPA, but I generally use NA 2 row so I went with that.
    barfdiggs likes this.
  8. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Savant (420) California Mar 22, 2011

    Ditto. Rahr 2-row, Rahr White Wheat, Weyermann Munich, Dingeman's Aromatic Malt comprise my go to grain bill (West Coast IPA).
  9. jlpred55

    jlpred55 Savant (305) Iowa Jul 26, 2006

    Rahr Pale Ale malt for me. It has the right blend of flavors and isn't too toasty or sweet. So I chose NA pale ale malt. IMO Maris Otter is too toasty. My second choice is GP
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Champion (930) Pennsylvania Jul 12, 2009 Verified

    The stuff labeled "Brewer's Malt" is typically a little lighter than pale ale malts, about 2 SRM vs. 3-4 SRM. Pilsner can be even lighter.
  11. For the example of Briess Malting:

    · Pilsner: 1.2 L
    · 2-row: 1.8 L
    · Pale: 3.5 L

  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Savant (485) Nevada Dec 4, 2008 Verified

    Although the type of 2 row barley plays a role...the lovibond indicates/correlates with how much toasting/kilning it received

    I have gone to almost exclusively NA 2 Row (Pale Ale Malt) between 2.8-3.5 L, but still use a little Aromatic, Munich, and usually British C-55 and/or light Carastan in IPAs...unless there's a deal out there I can't pass up.
  13. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Moderator (685) Oregon Aug 25, 2009 Staff Member Verified

    Went with NA Pale Ale Malt. Use it as the base in almost all my beers. Enough character of it own w/o getting too toasty.
  14. MrOH

    MrOH Advocate (525) Maryland Jul 5, 2010

    Golden Promise for me. My base malt of choice in almost all styles that I brew. Nice clean, deep, slighty sweet malty goodness.
    oregone and DubbelMan like this.
  15. kjyost

    kjyost Champion (775) Manitoba (Canada) May 4, 2008 Verified

    Is it the same type of barley? What's the blend? That's the real issue with these generic definitions of malt. The maltster calls what I have "Pilsner Malt" FYI. That and everyone knows that Canadian Malts are better ;)
  16. NA 2-Row for me. We can add more sweetness with other malt. Thanks.
  17. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Savant (485) Nevada Dec 4, 2008 Verified

    "everyone knows that Canadian Malts are better "

    At least Gambrinus ESB malt : )

  18. I really don’t know the answer to your question.

    The spec sheet for all three malts state: “Produced in the U.S.A. from AMBA/BMBRI recommended 2-Row malting varieties”.

    The above reads like 'abba dabba jabba wabba' to me. Do you know what the above means?

  19. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Moderator (895) Georgia Feb 12, 2012 Staff Member Verified

    I haven't done GP.. I normal just go for the cheaper Rahr 2 row at my store... Like 80 cents a pound or something.

    That said.. I voted for maris otter. Love it in an IPA and figure the flavor would be good no matter what we vote.
  20. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Savant (485) Nevada Dec 4, 2008 Verified

  21. kjyost

    kjyost Champion (775) Manitoba (Canada) May 4, 2008 Verified

    Our homebrew club went to the Canadian Malting Barley Technical Centre here in Winnipeg where they make test batches for breweries (it was a brewpub's IPA in CA that we sampled at the time) and then went and saw their malting facilities. They explained to us all this stuff about which varietals, etc at the time. They claim that ours is the best in the world and they lobby on our behalf :)
  22. ryane

    ryane Savant (390) Washington Nov 21, 2007

    hmm if the GP and MO were listed as british pale malt they would be giving the 2row malt a run for its $$
  23. North American 2-row. This process is for an American IPA, after all.
    AlCaponeJunior likes this.
  24. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Champion (810) Texas May 21, 2010

    USA! USA! USA! :D
    nozferatu46 likes this.
  25. VikeMan

    VikeMan Champion (930) Pennsylvania Jul 12, 2009 Verified

    And the answer is... North American Two-Row Brewer's Malt is the base. Next up... polls #5 and #6 to settle flavor grains/adjuncts, if any.