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Sunk King releases reserve cans of The Velvet Fog and Bourbon Barrel Johan the Barleywine

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Todd, Jan 17, 2013.

  1. aasher

    aasher Poobah (1,260) Indiana Jan 27, 2010 Verified

    Then they need to change the name.
    jonallan likes this.
  2. footballnbeer

    footballnbeer Zealot (95) Indiana Mar 12, 2010


    I was just told by someone at the brewery that not only is it the same beer but its the same batch (it's only been brewed one time) and that the beer spent some time in barrels but not enough to pick up the true barrel character for them to consider it to be barrel aged.
  3. lotsaswigs

    lotsaswigs Aficionado (240) Indiana Jan 24, 2006

    So my question is, is it worth the profit they're going to make (or even breaking even if that's even possibly the case-surely they're priced for a profit) off of 250 cans to charge this much and possibly take a hit from regular/potential customers that might see this as a bit shady?

    For instance, I myself have been known to buy a 4-pack of Osiris for a canoeing trip or whatever, but I doubt the next time I'm trying to decide I'll pick it up again knowing they've been pricing me out of their market with these special releases. It doesn't make me mad they do it, it's their right to charge whatever they want, and I'll be happy not buying it like every other one of their "special" releases I've passed on. But I do question if it's the right direction for a brewery who, IMO at least, has been releasing pretty average beers since their opening a couple years ago. Right place right time.
    gpawned likes this.
  4. aasher

    aasher Poobah (1,260) Indiana Jan 27, 2010 Verified

    I highly doubt Sun King would release the unbarrel aged version of the base year and call it the same name. The Velvet Fog released last spring was barrel aged and had a decent amount of bourbon to it.
  5. Zapy

    Zapy Aficionado (170) Indiana Feb 8, 2012 Verified

    I would be shocked if they released a different velvet fog. If I remember correctly, Velvet Fog was batch 333. Any changes would be confusing. I am certain that that thing had a ton of barrel in it, which put some people off at Kahn's (sigh). I do hope they didn't change anything since that was probably my favorite SK beer. Here's to hoping
    jonallan and aasher like this.
  6. mcc1654

    mcc1654 Savant (380) Illinois Mar 20, 2011

    I thought the barrel aged version was called Pappy Fog. At least that is what they called it at FOBAB.
  7. aasher

    aasher Poobah (1,260) Indiana Jan 27, 2010 Verified

    I'm sure they have a bunch of different barrels
  8. Zapy

    Zapy Aficionado (170) Indiana Feb 8, 2012 Verified

    If my memory serves me right Pappy Fog was a special version of the batch, but not all of it made it to PvW barrels.
  9. HumanParaquat

    HumanParaquat Savant (490) Indiana Jun 23, 2011 Verified

    Anyone know how much Velvet Fog will hit distro round Indy?
  10. robwestcott

    robwestcott Advocate (685) Indiana Nov 3, 2008 Verified

    what's the line look like this morning
  11. jwb06

    jwb06 Aficionado (140) Indiana Dec 24, 2009

    Only about 15-20ish people total around opening time. Well organized with wrist bands and taking down names to avoid double dipping
    eyeenjoybeer and myersk27 like this.
  12. BuckeyeDave

    BuckeyeDave Aficionado (145) Ohio May 30, 2008

    FYI - As of around 11:00 they said they had around 60 of the BBL Johan available that were not reserved.
  13. aasher

    aasher Poobah (1,260) Indiana Jan 27, 2010 Verified

    Very, very small amount. The majority of accounts will only get one case. Kahns only got three.
  14. Boilerfood

    Boilerfood Savant (445) Indiana Jun 5, 2012

    There were still BB Johan cans for non reservation pickup at 430. They also had Velvet Fog with no limit available at the brewery.
  15. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Advocate (640) Illinois Feb 27, 2009 Verified

    Hey it's rated 3.6 soo umm.....I forgot where I was going with this.
  16. CWBlues

    CWBlues Savant (375) Indiana May 4, 2011 Verified

    There's also this:
    We had been talking about setting up some distribution in Chicago so that we could send beer up that way surrounding Chicago Craft Beer Week and FoBAB, but after a lot of back and forth we decided to abandon the possibility. The laws surrounding distribution and of distribution rights are incredibly convoluted and one sided towards the distributor in Illinois and we felt we would be best served to stay the course in our current market.
    via email from Sun King co-founder, Clay Robinson.
    myersk27 likes this.
  17. myersk27

    myersk27 Advocate (505) Indiana Oct 21, 2011 Verified

    yeah, i mean I guess it would be cool if they actually distributed consistently to their home state before going out of state....
  18. atoulouk

    atoulouk Savant (435) Indiana Apr 25, 2011 Verified

    I passed on an opportunity to get Johan at the brewery at about noon yesterday. I love Sun King, but $25 for 16oz of anything is too rich for my blood.

    I picked up the 2 pack of Velvet Fog, which was expensive but WAY more reasonable than Johan.
  19. myersk27

    myersk27 Advocate (505) Indiana Oct 21, 2011 Verified

    i have one BA Johan on reservation....but still haven't decided if I really want it or not....leaning more and more towards passing on it.....
  20. TheodorHerzl

    TheodorHerzl Advocate (525) Indiana Mar 30, 2007 Verified

    I would rather buy 2 bottles of J.W. Lees and a sixer of anything else in the store for less money instead of 25 bones for a single pint of beer.