Shelf life of Founder's Devil Dancer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Maxwell_James, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. Maxwell_James Member

    I was shocked to just come across a Founder's Devil Dancer 4-pack at a local grocery store this late in the season with it only being brewed in June. I purchased it but am considering returning it because the date of bottling was listed as 05.24.2012. Is 6 months time too long for the beer to still retain it's full flavor and hoppiness? I would love to keep it but the steep price tag has me questioning whether or not it is worth the risk.
  2. slowbie Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
    If it was sold at a decent price I would keep it and drink it. It's not going to be as hoppy as it would be fresh, but it has enough of a malt backbone that I think it'd still be good.
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  3. thebigredone Member

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    IMO, this beer tastes completely different fresh than with a few months on it. I'm not sure what it would taste like with six months on it, but I'd return. Then again, I strongly dislike this beer even when fresh.
  4. gatornation Member

    Location:
    Minnesota
    Caveat emptor its yours now
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  5. Phacoman Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I got my first lot of this beer this year and I've heard it can age well. I got a half case and I drank 6 and saved 6 which I'll try sporadically to see what happens. If I were you, I'd have 1-2 now and then the others in 6 months and a year out just to see what happens.
  6. Crookdrain Member

    Location:
    New York
    There's a shit ton of Devil Dancer, KBS (well, 3 bottles at least in the back room) , and Old Curmudgeon still available by me in Brooklyn. Picked up the OC last night (brewed in May) and it tasted fine.
  7. FEUO Member

    Location:
    Ontario (Canada)
    With that high an ABV and IBUs it reminded me more of an american barleywine after half a year with the hop profile mellowing big time. I enjoy it fresh or aged. I may be one of the few who REALLY like Devil Dancer.
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  8. nc41 Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
    I would guess an overly sweet malty mess by 6 months.
  9. Steimie Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    I'm not sure DD is worth the price when it's fresh, but it'd be interesting to try at this point. If you want to take it back due to it being "expired," go ahead and try. I'd tell you to take a hike if I was the retailer, but good luck to you.
  10. jRocco2021 Member

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    I had a 2010 90 minute once it still had a hop presence. It tasted like if you took a barley wine and an IPA and mixed them half and half. devil dancer is a triple so while the hops will fade it's not gonna be perceptible unless you have a fresh one to do a side by side.

    Edit: Ill take it off your hands if you don't want it I'd trade New Glarus for it.
  11. wvsabbath Member

    Location:
    West Virginia
    I had a 1 year old devil dancer and i actually liked it more then fresh, hops were still present but the malts came out a little more , and alot of the alcohol warmth died down, it was actually more balanced.
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  12. lotsaswigs Member

    Location:
    Indiana
    This beer doesn't profile the hoppy goodness you might expect from your standard popular DIPA's out there anyways, so I wouldn't even think of it along the lines of a pliny, hopslam or whatever is always talked about fading away. Fresh it's boozey as all hell and just drips of resiny hops, not a flowery/fruity aromatic beer at all...I appreciate it for what it is either way, but my personal opinion is it's better with a little age anyways so I'd just give it a try. I've had bottles with several years of age and they were perfectly decent beers.
  13. hannont Member

    Location:
    Oregon
    I plan to try one that is five years old tonight :)
  14. huysmans Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
  15. NickyDee21 Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Just drank one of mine today (haven't been home since the purchase). Still tasted like an IPA, but very malty. I'm assuming the hop character packs much more of a punch when it's fresh
  16. 4Socialanxiety Member

    Location:
    Tennessee
    I would keep it, like FEUO said with that high of a ABV and IBU's it will be fine maybe even better then fresh. Give it a go, I say!
  17. fujindemon74 Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Let's be honest, though it is labeled a Triple IPA, Devil Dancer is a barleywine in the american style.
    It's good fresh imo, but better with 6+ months of age imo.
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  18. Googs Member

    Location:
    New York
    I think the fresh devil dancer is quite the shit show, just too hot, overwhelming and barely drinkable. So many better TIPAs and american barleywines out there.
    For the ABV, it should have a strong enough malt back bone, so when aged, theoretically, it will mellow out the hops and booze and get those rich and sweet malts to come foward.
    I'm a big fan of american barlywines, and hopefully time will make this beer less palate wrecking and something I can sip and enjoy. I'm aging some bottles for 2yrs. as an experiment. i haven't given up on this brew yet!
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  19. Googs Member

    Location:
    New York
    how was it man?
  20. PsilohsaiBiN Member

    Location:
    New York
    And you just left without ALL of the KBS???
  21. KevSal Member

    Location:
    California
    i had one with a year on it and loved it! the hops were surpringly present. good stuff
  22. Crookdrain Member

    Location:
    New York
    I bought myself a 4 pack. They're $10/bottle so I'm being economical here.
  23. JamesShoemaker Member

    Location:
    New York
    Honestly, DD is hot enough that I wouldn't feel bad about leaving it on a shelf for a year.
  24. fujindemon74 Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

    Beer tends to be expensive here in PA, but $6-7/bottle or $20/4-pack is around what I'd pay.
    Sorry bro, DD isn't worth $10/bottle, fresh or aged.
  25. katje111 Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I have a couple of devil dancer left from about a year and a half ago. Just opened one up and its still very hoppy and tastes great.
  26. JamesShoemaker Member

    Location:
    New York
    Agreed.
  27. Porkhustle Member

    On my shelf, forever. A perfect example of American excess. A real dumb beer if you will
  28. DrDemento456 Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Looking back at my review I might have gotten an older bottle since I noticed a not very strong hop presence and a candy like malt consistency.

    If you got the four pack aged for say 20 bucks I would say it would be worth it.
  29. Crookdrain Member

    Location:
    New York
    DD isn't $10. KBS is. I think DD is $5/bottle.
  30. fujindemon74 Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Now that makes sense.
  31. mcrago Member

    Location:
    Indiana
    Can I buy the KBS from you?
  32. ItsLaTrappe Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Some DD just popped up locally after sitting at some distributor somewhere, which was convenient since I had missed it fresh. Hadn't had it in a couple of years.
    Honestly taste's like a poor man's 120 Minute. Thumbs up!
  33. Crookdrain Member

    Location:
    New York
    We can do a trade, if you want. Message me and let's chat
  34. mathematizer Member

    Location:
    Maine
    Anyone still have the 4pack box that devil dancer came in? I thought it said something about dancing with the devil... Being complex as hell... And good for years to come. The shelf life doesn't support that though... Hmm.
  35. BladeRunner Member

    Location:
    Illinois
    Just treat it like a Barleywine. It's got the malt and ABV to back it up.
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  36. BoneyardBrewer Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Its fantastic aged, at 3 or 4 years its phenomenal.
  37. CellarGimp Member

    Location:
    Missouri
    Ages well but definitely a barleywine after a year.
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  38. harrymel Member

    Location:
    Washington
    Yup. Pretty standard operational procedure. Take that IPA and nurture it into a beautiful, unsuspecting barelywine. ;)
  39. jhartley Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
  40. Noelito76 Member

    Location:
    New York
    This. Completely unbalanced once the hops fade out. Even if you think of this as a barleywine like many of us do, still too sweet and boozy. There are plenty still on the shelf around my way.

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