I'm wondering, do people collect beer like wine and do these collectible brews actually gain value with time like wines do? Please forgive me if this seems like a newbie question. I am a newbie to this hobby! How long can a beer actually remain drinkable if collected? What are some of the most coveted beers? Thanks, gents.
Sink the bismarck and tactical nuclear peguin i just picked up says drink before 2020. They were about $110/each. Im sure if i dont drink them they'll gain some value
Here's the list of the biggest "whales" or the most sought after beers in the world. Beers that are only made once will gain value over time as the # of those beers available become smaller. Beers can remain drinkable for many years depending on the alcohol content and style, but different people believe different things about when different beers are in their "prime." 1 Hair of the Dog Dave 2 Cantillon Soleil de Minuit 3 Cantillon Spuyten Duyvil 4 Drie Fonteinen Framboos 1999 5 Cantillon Loerik 6 Midnight Sun M Belgian Style Barleywine 7 Cantillon Don Quijote 8 De Struise Dirty Horse (100% 1983, 90%/10%, 100% 2005) 9 Cantillon/Drie Fonteinen Akkarat Exclusives** 10 Lost Abbey Veritas 005 11 Lost Abbey Yellow Bus 12 Cantillon LH12 13 Cantillon Finland Exclusives* 14 Drie Fonteinen 50th Anniversary 15 Cantillon Bourgogne Lambic 16 Cantillon Pikkulinnun Viskilambic 17 Sam Adams Millenium 18 Drie Fonteinen Selectie C 19 Drie Fonteinen Millennium Gueuze 20 Cantillon Pinot d'Anuis 21 Flossmoor Station Wooden Hell 22 Cantillon Feestbier 23 Bullfrog Black Cherry Bomb 24 De Dolle Stille Nacht Reserva 2000 25 Drie Fonteinen J&J Roze 26 Russian River Beatification PH1 27 Drie Fonteinen Oude Gueuze 1999 28 Drie Fonteinen J&J Blauw 29 Surly Darkness 2007 30 Bullfrog Beekeeper 31 Cantillon Brabantiae 32 Lost Abbey Veritas 004 33 Lost Abbey Cable Car Kriek 34 Russian River Toronado 20th 35 Russian River Depuration 36 Cantillon Blabaer Batch 1-4 37 Drie Fonteinen Framboos 2011 38 Cantillon Zwanze 2008 39 Cantillon 50N4E 40 Lost Abbey Cable Car 2007 41 Cantillon Jean Chris Nomad 42 (tie) Lost Abbey Veritas 001 42 (tie) Drie Fonteinen Malvasia Rosso/Druiven Gueuze 42 (tie) Russian River Deviation 45 Gasthaus-Brauerei Braustelle Eszett Geuze 46 Narke Kaagen! Stormaktsporter 47 Three Floyds Pappy Van Winkle Dark Lord 48 Three Floyds Dark Lord 2004 49 Midnight Sun Sloth 50 Lost Abbey Le Woody Brune 51 Cantillon Crianza Helena 52 Cantillon La Demiere Cuvee Du 89 53 De Dolle Speciaal Brouwsel 20th 54 Bullfrog Blue Cheer 55 The Bruery Barrel Aged Partridge in a Pear Tree 56 Narke Konjaks! Stormaktsporter 57 Lost Abbey Isabelle Proximus 58 Hair of the Dog Eve 59 Hill Farmstead Ann 60 50/50 Eclipse - Pappy Van Winkle 61 Drie Fonteinen Hommage 62 Portsmouth Kate the Great 2006 63 New Belgium Bottleworks 10th Anniversary La Folie 64 Narke Svensk El! Stormaktsporter 65 East End Gratitude 2005 66 Mikkeller X 2006 67 Three Floyds Brandy Vanilla Dark Lord 68 Southamtpon Berliner Weiss 69 New Belgium Falling Rock La Folie 70 Cigar City Apple Brandy Hunahpus 71 Narke Stormaktsporter 72 The Bruery Rye/Bourbon/Brandy Papier 73 Belle Vue Selection Lambic 1999 74 Cantillon Kersengueuze 75 Lost Abbey Cable Car 2009 76 Lost Abbey Veritas 002 77 Portsmouth Double Oaked Kate the Great 78 Lost Abbey Cable Car 2008 79 Alesmith Barrel Aged Speedway Stout 2003 80 Hair of the Dog Adam from the Wood Batch 1 81 Cantillon Blabaer Batch 4+ 82 Mikkeller X 2007 - Barrel Aged 83 Three Floyds Bourbon Vanilla Dark Lord 84 Lost Abbey Veritas 003 85 Cantillon Fou Foune Pre-2004 86 Lost Abbey Veritas 006 87 Lost Abbey Veritas 007 88 Cantillon Pre-2000 Gueuze, Kriek, St. Lamvinus, Rose 89 New Belgium Twisted Spoke 15th Anniversary 90 Cantillon Framboise 91 Russian River Beatification Batch 1-3 92 Girardin Fond Gueuze Bierpallieters 93 Rodenbach Alexander Rodenbach 94 The Bruery Partridge in a Pear Tree 95 Nørrebro Bryghus Saison Lambic Pinot Noir 96 Stone Vertical Epic 020202 97 Lost Abbey Cable Car 2010 98 Boston Beer Company Utopias 2002, 2003 99 Lost Abbey Duck Duck Gooze 100 The Bruery Black Tuesday 2009 Best of the Rest: 101 Dogfish Head Festine Lente 102 50/50 Eclipse - Old Fitzgerald 103 Midnight Sun Lust 104 Fantome De Pissenlit Strong 105 Pelican Perfect Storm 2008 106 The Bruery Chocolate Rain batch 1 107 Bullfrog Strawberry Fields 108 Three Floyds Bourbon BA Dark Lord 109 Goose Island Rare Bourbon County Stout 110 50/50 Iced Eclipse 111 Allagash Gargamel 112 Lindeman's Loerik 113 Troegs Splinter Gold 114 De Dolle Stille Nacht Reserva 2008 115 Westvleteren Special 6 116 Cigar City Bourbon BA Hunahpus 117 Brasserie de la Senne Crianza 118 Cigar City Rum Barrel Hunahpu’s 119 Captain Lawrence Cuvee De Castleton Batch 1 120 Cigar City Whiskey BA Hunahpus 121 Cantillon Pre-2002 Lou Pepe Gueuze 122 Hill Farmstead Mimosa 123 Three Floyds Dark Lord De Muerte 124 Cantillon Pre-2002 Lou Pepe Kriek/Framboise 125 Jolly Pumpkin Perseguidor 3 126 Framboise for the Cure Batch 1 2010 127 Captain Lawrence Flaming Fury 128 Drie Fonteinen Oude Geuze - Armand & Tommy 129 General Lafayette 275th Anniversary 130 De Struise Pannepot Wild 131 Three Floyds Cognac BA Dark Lord 132 Portsmouth Kate the Great 2007 133 Jolly Pumpkin Perseguidor (Batch 1) 134 Lost Abbey Veritas 010 135 Jolly Pumpkin Perseguidor (Batch 2) - Oro De Calabaza Reserve 136 Three Floyds Brandy Barrel Dark Lord 137 Cantillon Fou Foune 2004-2009 138 Alesmith BA Speedway Stout 2004 139 Southampton Peconic County Reserve Ale 140 Three Floyds Dark Lord 2005 141 Southampton Black Raspberry Lambic 142 Old Chimneys Good King Henry Special Reserve 143 Heavyweight Barrel Aged Old Salty (2005) 144 Cantillon 2003-2004 Lou Pepe Gueuze 145 Midnight Sun Bar Fly 146 Surly Two 147 Portsmouth Kate the Great 2008 148 Fish Brewing Merlot Barrel Aged Leviathan (Batch 2, November 2000) 149 Allagash Vagabond 150 Three Floyds Cognac de Muerte Dark Lord 151 Troegs Splinter Blue 152 Odonata Beer Company Rorie's Ale 153 Great Lakes Barrel Aged Blackout Stout 2005 154 Fish Brewing Merlot Barrel Aged Poseidon (Batch 2, November 2000) 155 Mikkeller Big Bad 156 Hill Farmstead Damon 157 Fantôme Santé 1! 158 Tilquin Quetsche Lambic 159 Hill Farmstead Biere de Norma 160 Goose Island Bourbon County Stout 2003, 2005 161 Drie Fonteinene Oude Geuze Vintage 162 De Struise Double Black 163 Russian River Toronado 25th 164 Churchill's Finest 2012 165 De Struise Special Kay 166 Cantillon Rose, Kriek (750ml) 167 Cantillon Gueuze (750ml) 168 Bell's Black Note 169 Jolly Pumpkin Luciérnaga, The Firefly - Grand Reserve 170 Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Bourbon Barrels) 173 Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Cabernet Barrels) 171 Fantôme Santé 2! 172 Fantôme Santé 3! 173 Fantôme Santé 4! 174 Sixpoint Bolshoi 175 Three Floyds Dark Lord 2006 176 Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Pinot Noir Barrels) 177 Fantôme Santé X!
The truth is that all beer must be consumed ASAP; it looses flavor and value with each passing minute. Please ignore my WBAYDN post from yesterday about a year-old Palo Santo Marron - it was awful and I clearly wasn't thinking right.
This isn't really true. Look at the list you posted, there's a few strong barleywines and then a bunch of lambics all at the top. These beers have a few things in common: 1) Old 2) Very limited releases (if released at all) 3) Small production 4) Widely acknowledged as very good, and typically from extremely respected breweries. 5) Styles that age gracefully at worst, well at best. The lambics are also only available in Europe. That adds up to being very desirable. The problem with your statement is that very, very few beers fit these criteria. No one will give a shit about Bolt Cutter in 10 years, but if Cantillon releases another 2000-bottle something-or-other then odds are good people will. ...Except that now there are lots of people who believe the thing you said, who will hold onto these bottles like they're Ken Griffy Jr rookie cards, whereas in the past they'd be drank. Maybe even hard-to-get stuff won't ever get to Dave level just because people are too aware to let it happen now.
I guess I was saying that in the context that in the context that the beer had to be highly sough after or desired in the first place, since we are talking highly sought after "rare" beers. I think most people understand that a beer has to be at least somewhat desire-able initially due to it being very good, limited, or from a well respected brewery to see that beer's "value" go up.
Thank you, gents. This is great. I am working on getting my hands on some Kaggen! Stormaktsporter through some family I have in Sweden.
They gain value- they do not gain flavor, however. Most on that list it's fair to say taste worse than they did when they were released.
the last two bottles of Dave sold at auction for $4525, which is believed to be the most for any of those wale list beers. http://beerpulse.com/2012/11/two-bo...dave-go-for-potentially-record-breaking-4525/
