I think it would be helpful if this site had a section with a pronunciation guide... Recently, I was traveling and was going to a bar that had Cantillon. I didn’t want to sound like an idiot by mispronouncing when I ordered, so I spent 30 minutes searching the BA forums for how to pronounce this, with mixed results. Then googled it and was able to find an audio file that had the proper pronunciation. I could have saved a bunch of time if there was a place on this site to find this. I figure that there are plenty of words that get slaughtered in the beer world (i.e., Cantillion, gueuze, Lagunitas) that could be included. This section could have the old school pronunciation re-spelling and an audio file of someone saying it correctly. Of course words with disputed pronunciations (i.e., Pliny) would be a separate discussion, although I suppose you could just have both options.
Weihenstephaner comes to mind. I usually just say it as fast and mumbly as I can. Hopefully the bartender understands what I'm trying to say. Otherwise I have to look like a tool and point to the menu.
How is there dispute of the pronunciation of Pliny? That was a fairly common name. And it's well known how his(as in Elder and Younger) name was pronounced.
Great thread. Other requests: De Dolle Drie Fonteinen Slaapmutske Ommegang (How is the "gang" supposed to be pronounced)
Close...most people don't realize that the "steph" should be "SHteph". And personally, I actually say it like this.. "VAI-IN-SHTEF-AH-NER"
Thought I found one... I think what I actually found was a Youtube review of the beer, where the way the reviewed said it most closely resembled the pronunciation re-spelling... either way, a simple audio file with just the word in question shouldn't be that hard to do. Here is the video... not endorsing the people performing the review... just used it to hear Cantillon... see 0:54 second mark
Do a quick seach in the formums... there are quite a few threads on this one. Basically, it's whether it's a short "I", or a long "I"
DEH - DOH - LUH OHM - MEH - GONG SLAH - PS - MOOT - SKUH 3F has a lot of debate DREE - FON - TA - NAH DREE - FON - TAY - NEN
Oh I see.. I didn't know people debated this actually. Well the philosopher Plinys name came from the Latin Plinius , which was pronounced Ply - nee -us. Even though I've heard the name with a short I. In reference to the Pliny The Elder. It's with a Long.
OHM MEH GANG is the pronunciation.I can guarantee you that is how they at the brewery pronounce it when they give their tours and tastings. It isn't gong.
I think this would make more sense if it was included on the breweries page rather than in a separate section of the site. I like the idea of showing the names phonetically, but the audio file may be a bit overkill. Good topic.
How about sucaba? Tried to order it at a bar and it took a while for the waitress to know what I was trying to order!
True thats how its usually pronounced in English dictionaries. However Latin and English are different. I had to take Latin classes and it's always pronounced plY NEE.. However many times plinius is pronounced Plin EEE us...But i've never heard a latin teach or in documentaries pronounce it PLIN ee... guess just one of those things, that could go either.. I'll continue to use PlY-nee though
west-VLAY-turren (last two syllables are almost turned into a single "-tren", and the "w" is not quite a "v" like in german, but not really an english "w" either.)
RR calls it ply-nee. Thats what matters. They sell a baby onesie that says "Tiny Pliny" on it. Case closed.
I remember back when I was in Buffalo, one time I was in the beer section at Wegmans and one random girl just said "did these guys just make an oh my god beer?"
I though Gose was pronounced GOSE-UH. According to Michael Jackson the closest English approximation to Gueuze is to say the word "cursor" but starting with a "g", though I have never anyone pronounce it this way.
