The description doesn't fit unfortunately, I worked a lot in that area and there's not too much tender about it. But its reputation still precedes itself...
I just looked at where this is. Two blocks from a BART station and people are talking about driving in? Also, I've walked that exact area, after dark, while going to a play, it's fine. I'm with you, the "WE'RE ALL GONNA GET MUGGED" reaction is ridiculously overblown.
It should be great! The co-owner Chuck Stilphin is also the co-owner of Trappist and Trappist Provisions in Oakland. I love Trappist! Small menu, but the food pairs perfectly with the great beers on tap. Provisoions is less cozy, but they have a small event space upstairs. I met the To Øl guys there for a tasting a few weeks ago. May is a tight schedule since Chuck will be at the CBC, begin of May (I'll be there too as long as I can find an affordable flight. I have event tix). Mikkel is all about experimenting and sharing what he's done. He was a science teacher after all. I appreciate his creativity, while I don't love a lot of it...I enjoy tasting them.
Hahahahaha, oh man, too true. Mikkeller does make some amazing beers, but the price of most of them is a tough pill to swallow.
Yeah, anyone who considers Mason and Market part of the Tenderloin has never visited the real Tenderloin.
Not to mention, even the real tenderloin isn't particularly dangerous. It's just coated in urine, poop, and crack residue.
...Unlike the rest of San Francisco? I walked from Mission Bowling to Toronado a few weeks ago and I saw SO MUCH POOP. Do other big cities have this much poop on the streets? I don't recall seeing any in NYC last time I was there...
I can vouch for the amount of observed poop between said destinations. Poop wrapped in napkins, under the trees, and lovingly placed in hybrid Taco Bell/KFC soda cups. I will say, however, that the walk between Hair of the Dog and Cascade Barrel House was rather poop-ridden as well, and had a higher percentage that was of the human persuasion.
We have this issue in Philadelphia, especially when it rains or snows. Apparently whenever there's precipitation, that signals open season for a smorgasbord of fecal matter to be littered around the streets...and I'm not even talking about North or West Philly.
I work in the loin and am not scared though if you dropped me in a similar neighborhood in a city i wasnt familiar with i would be probably scared shitless. Apparently no good spots in the Mission available. That part of town really isnt a good night life spot to begin with though it is close to the most hotel rooms in a city block west of the mississippi.
a new beer spot???? GREAT!!!!!! however, i feel no compulsion to GO GO GO.... of course the time will be right one day, maybe, and i will go there at as an off-time as i can manage.... and check it out. i used to really like going to Magnolia, but even that is pretty rough now. maybe if the MIKKELLER place opens they will draw crowd away from other spots, that would be a positive. like many in this thread, YOU SAY MIKKELLER I SAY $$-TELLER
Why I think this place will be great! Mikkel is a great collaborator. He works with brewers all over the world, especially in California. The To Øl guys (Mikkel was their science teacher and taught them how to brew beer. Mikkel has recently become their business partner) told our group that American craft beer drinkers are influencing how European brewers are brewing beer. They're impressed by our more adventurous taste! If you look at the CBC line up, it's an indication that the new bar is going to get some really interesting beers from all over the world...not all Mikkeller. Plus, Chuck, co-owner of Trappist, makes good choices!
Ive lived in SF for 8 years. The Tenderloin, while it has been getting a little better, it still isn't near tender.
A group of guys have made a killing running a group of bars that make fancy cocktails in the tenderloin for years. Its a hipster blueprint!
Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like it's around the corner from Powell and Market. I was under the impression that's one of the most touristy places in SF (with the cable car terminal).
Mikkeller is opening a second bar in Copenhagen this weekend. Here's the opening tap list: http://mikkeller.dk/mikkeller-friends-opening-tap-list/. Hopefully this is a preview of things to come in SF.
Yeah - I'm going to stick with City Beer where the bargains are. Can't get enough of those 3 digit "vintage" Eclipses!
I'll also mention that only a hick pays to park in lots in S.F. (If you don't know where to park, I'm not going to tell you.) Also, if you're from so far out of the area that public transportation is only a "partial answer," maybe you shouldn't be having a drinking "session" before taking BART back to Dublin or wherever to pick up your car and drive the rest of the way back into the hills. Get a room or keep your consumption down. Parking may be free up in the hills, but you have to deal with tramps, meth heads, bears, and the general squalor of rural towns. WTF? Why would anyone build anything in a place like that?
I think you mean, "lack of good taste." Some of the stuff these guys put in beer is hideous. They should learn the basics before they try to push the boundaries of the field.
Man some huge internet crybabies in this thread for sure. Do you really want to go or do you just want to whine about stuff? If the former, take a cab. If the latter, keep at it champ, some other minor inconvenience will come along soon.
With the Mikkeller bar opening this Summer, would it ever be a possibility to see a Mikkeller/5050 Collaboration?