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Belgium Is there anyone that lives close to De Dolle that can help me out?

Discussion in 'Europe' started by tbadiuk, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    So, I've spent hours and hours trying to find some Stille Nacht Reserva 2010 online. I really would like to get about 4-6 bottles, which makes things even harder. I've even been in contact with Kris at De Dolle, who helpfully tells me that there is 'lots' sitting at the brewery, and will be for a while. I've tried the trade angle a bit, but it's been a bit ridiculous trying when you're looking for this many bottles!

    So, I had a thought, I've never tried a "gopickitupformebro" myself, and started to wonder if that would work! :p Of course I'd compensate anyone who could help me out in some way (with beer,etc). The easiest might be just to buy you some extra SNR'10 for your troubles, to save on shipping things from mine end.

    Also, I'd of course pay for any shipping charges or packing materials as well. I guess I'd prefer someone on here that has a trade history, and can pack really well! (use bubblewrap or a stryroshipper,etc) :cool:

  2. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    Just a quick update - I had an offer from a fellow BA just now to get me some bottles (well, 10 bottles in his example) at a price of 35€/bottle before shipping. Regretably, I cannot afford any offers at this price level, as I'm afriad I'm not rich enough to budget for that! I figured I'd mention this to save everyone some time...

  3. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    Just to clarify (again) - I'm not looking to hire someone to make a long trip to get these beers, as I cannot afford to pay hundreds of Euro for someone's time, I'm just trying to see if I can find someone close to De Dolle who can do this for me at a reasonable cost. Example: I pay for 9 bottles, you can keep 3 and ship me 6, I cover all shipping costs/etc. I've done this for people countless times in the past with my local Half Pints brewery beers, keeping my fingers crossed for beer Karma on this one! :cool:

  4. Dennoman

    Dennoman Advocate (515) Belgium Aug 20, 2011

    You won't find it online, if they have any sense at all and don't want to cross Kris. I saw someone barge in and ask for dozens of bottles, supposedly for his "friends". They wouldn't have any of it, and rightfully so.

    A friend of mine should be heading to Dolle next weekend. I'll try and see what I can do. You strike me as someone with legit love for the product. I'd like to mention you're absolutely the last person I'm willing to go through the effort for, so no further requests from anyone plzkthx :)
    claaark13 likes this.
  5. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    Thanks, any help with be great!

    I actually emailed De Dolle directly and have been talking to Kris in emails, and he's been great in trying to help me out. He actually put me in contact with a fellow at their North Americian distributor B. United INTL in Connecticut. My contact there has been trying to find me some for me as well, but as he said "the horses have left the barn!" in that the small amount of cases of SNR they got went out to the stores and it's mostly been sold already.

    ps: If things work out for you and your friend and he ends up knowing that he's going for sure, I can even send Kris an email to warn him that the beer he is picking up is for me so that he has no troubles buying the extra bottles, if you'd like. I've already been cleared to get some beer for pickup at the brewery, it's just a matter of finding my picker-upper! :p

  6. Dennoman

    Dennoman Advocate (515) Belgium Aug 20, 2011

    If they can be put to the side for you indefinitely, so to speak, I'm sure it can be done quite handily. Also: please feel free to out the reseller f***tard that charges you 35 euros a bottle. I hope those assholes can get a lifetime ban at the brewery.
  7. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    Ok- I've sent Kris an email to verify everything!

    On the reseller @ 35 euros, he told me that he had to drive 600km (300km each way!) to go pick them up hence the high cost to cover expenses, which I told him is crazy (the driving 600km for beer that is)! This was the reason for my posting message #3 above actually, I wasn't looking to hire something for a full day to drive and pick me up beer. Don't get me wrong, I *love* my De Dolle beer (especially Oerbier!), but am not rich enough to love it quite that much to spend 35/bottle before shipping unfortunately...:p
  8. andrejes

    andrejes Savant (250) Netherlands Jun 10, 2011 Verified

    If it don't work, text me! This weekend I'am nearby!!
    Dennis let me know if your friend don't make it!!
  9. Dennoman

    Dennoman Advocate (515) Belgium Aug 20, 2011

    Sounds good, as I have no sure-fire guarantee on my guy.

    Better to just settle things with Andre then. I'll BM ya, you give him your details Ted.
  10. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    Will do, thanks!
  11. That is not a fellow BA Ted, but a guy who wants to make a profit if you ask me. Wonder who that guy is because it can not be a Belgian guy who drives 600 kilometers.....Now i hope this is not a Dutchy....

  12. Dennoman

    Dennoman Advocate (515) Belgium Aug 20, 2011

    I don't care if he's on here or the other site, a douche is a douche.
  13. Threads like this remind me how awesome the BA crowd is over in the Lowlands. Hooking a brother up with some succulent beer. SWEEET!!!!
    BeerBuddy2122 and jedwards like this.
  14. There awesome BAs everywhere!
  15. Jeffo

    Jeffo Advocate (680) Netherlands Sep 7, 2008

    There are lots of people in Belgium who buy and re-sell. I know a friend of mine is constantly baggering with a re-seller who likes to inflate prices pretty badly. Then again, lots of Americans are willing to pay it, which just compounds the problem. I guess this is part of the post-eBay world...

  16. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    I agree with what you posted, but in my case here I actually had a couple of BA's reach out and help me get some SNR, at basically no profit! So good people do still exist... :)

    What this SNR release has made me a bit aware of, is how hard people in Europe must have when it comes to acquiring American craft beer. I'd probably go crazy if every single ISO request I got was for Blabaer or some other obscure Cantillon or 3F all the time! Mind you, living in Canada I can sort of empathize a bit better than most with this...
  17. Dennoman

    Dennoman Advocate (515) Belgium Aug 20, 2011

    Welcome to our world, hence my harsh profile description :p

    People only care about the stupidly rare one-offs. Tourists raid places like Kulminator and De Heeren exclusively for ridiculous vintages and don't have the common courtesy to have some beers on tap first, which is how they obviously make money. No wonder prices are raised to stupid levels in that case. I love how everyone seems to think we have easy access to ridiculously rare stuff. It's rare for a reason.

    "Want some of my annual release or 10,000 bottle imperial stout? Crianza/Blauw/Roze/OG 50th Ann./Millennium/Framboos/Blabaer/... please!"


    Man, that felt good.
    Fux, claaark13, CwrwAmByth and 3 others like this.
  18. What the streets of Antwerp are not overflowing with Blaaber and Millenium Gueuze?
  19. yinzer

    yinzer Savant (395) Pennsylvania Nov 24, 2006

    Yep, so how many bottles do you have left? :D
  20. Dennoman

    Dennoman Advocate (515) Belgium Aug 20, 2011

    None, my serious beer geekery only started after I went to CBC and never heard of Sour & Bitter. So yes, at the worst possible time :D
  21. Jeffo

    Jeffo Advocate (680) Netherlands Sep 7, 2008

    Glad you got helped out Winterpeg. I'm having a hell of a time trying to get someone to help me out with some of this stuff as well, though rumor has it I eventually did get lucky. I'm hopeful. In any case, there are still helpful, honest peoeple out there :)

    I can hardly blame everyone for asking for The Big Three (Narke, Blabaer and Dirty Horse). Most people new to trading, or at least new to trading overseas, probably aren't aware of the situation, and other people are just trying to get the best bang for their GI buck. Most seasoned traders, however, know the deal and are interested in other things besides the obvious.
  22. I am quite lucky, I have just received a bottle of the 2010 Reserva as a gift from a customer.
  23. Fux

    Fux Savant (330) France Apr 20, 2011 Verified

    Interesting issue, Jeffo. What are you proposing, other than Cantillon or Drie Fonteinen for regular trades? I have little idea what is of interest, available in Europe that you can't find in the US.
  24. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    Thanks! Out of curiousity, are you the guy that exchanges boxes once a year with my friend Ken Yost here in Winnipeg? Apologies if I've got you mixed up with someone else. However, if you are, many thanks for getting Ken those De Cam bottles, as he brought them over to my house for a tasting night so I got to try some! :cool:
  25. yinzer

    yinzer Savant (395) Pennsylvania Nov 24, 2006

    Well there is Pius X by Brouwerij De Graal. But I seem to be one of the few that know about it.
  26. Jeffo

    Jeffo Advocate (680) Netherlands Sep 7, 2008

    Yeah, that's me. Glad you guys liked the De Cam. I've turned into a bit of a fan as well. Their 2009 lambiek is excellent, and the gueuze is no slouch either. There were a few other things in that box as well, so get on Ken's ass about them :D

    Ken seems like a good chap. Hope to trade with him again this summer. If you guys are sharing the box, feel free to put in requests as well. Just please steer clear of The Big Three and their colleagues...

    A lot of the best stuff in Europe is available, albeit for very short periods, on various webshops in Belgium. Stuff like Fou' Foune, Mamouche, St. Gilloise Gueuze, Rose de Gambrinus, etc., from Cantillon are things you could trade for instead of trying to get online. Would probably be easier and cheaper to get them all in one box from a trader than having to order several boxes when these beers are available. Same goes for releases from De Cam, Oud Beersel, Boon, Drie Fonteinen, Tilquin, etc., if you're into sours mostly. Other popular brewers here that are only sporadically available online are Fantome, De Struise, De Molen and Mikkeller if you're into things other than sours.

    Again, I don't blame new traders for asking for Blabaer, Narke, Dirty Horse, DQ, Framboos, etc., when they first dip into overseas trading. Most people don't know how hard this stuff is to get and aren't aware that Europe has a lot more to offer than the mega whales. Seasoned traders, and there are a lot of them, are usually more aware of the situation and are interested in other things. Besides, it is not like M, WH, BA DL and Izzy are the only beers in the States.

  27. Ditto to this. You might find Europeans more interested in trading nice available just in the states stuff for nice available in Europe stuff.

    Heck, if you know someone in Europe, pick stuff from a site like Etre Gourmet and pick it up when you go and meet them.
  28. tbadiuk

    tbadiuk Savant (425) Manitoba (Canada) Feb 9, 2009 Verified

    Will do! I'll have to check your 'wants' as well to see if I can 'help out' next go around as well...;)