Hill Farmstead expansion plans approved

Discussion in 'US - New England' started by bugdoc, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. bugdoc Member

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    California
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  2. smo Member

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    New Jersey
    Direct sales/shipping to customers would put so much strain on them. I can't even begin to imagine haha.... We can only hope though :)
  3. BottleCaps80 Member

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    Iowa
    Direct shipping to customers would be awesome!
  4. youbrewidrink Member

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    Vermont
    Love the avatar Hosser.
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  5. omniscientcause Member

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    Massachusetts
    Now I just need MA to get their act together if the direct shipping pans through.
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  6. Squidly Member

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    New Jersey
    Excellent story...thanks for linking.
  7. Flashy Member

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    Vermont
    HF was distributed by someone for a time, we had it on tap in Southern Vt for several months. Surprise they were able to get any business venture signed off on in this state.
  8. cbeer88 Member

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    Massachusetts
    HF has got to be the biggest boost to the VT economy in years. They're so remote that you pretty much have to stay overnight, if not make a weekend of it. Before HF I went to Waterbury for The Alchemist, but I never would have fathomed staying there and/or spending so much time as I do now...

    Anyway, this is great news.
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  9. nathanjohnson Member

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    Vermont
    Yea... Not at all. Four letters: GMCR.
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  10. cbeer88 Member

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    Massachusetts
    Well fair enough - HF can't compete with a multi-billion dollar company. :)

    But in terms of tourism, do people actually go up there for coffee the way beer geeks flock for HF?
  11. Patrick Member

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    Massachusetts
    I would hope not. Green Mountain on the same level as Dunkin Donuts when it comes to coffee.
  12. RochesterAaron Member

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    New York
    Made 2 trips to VT this summer because of HF. The first we stayed in Stowe one night, ended up going back for a week. Those trips would not have happened if not for HF.
  13. SunDevilBeer Member

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    Massachusetts
    There are numerous alcohol laws in MA that are more important than shipping rules.
  14. omniscientcause Member

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    Massachusetts
    Yea but will shaun be willing to break the shipping laws and send beer to states that dont allow it? My guess is no. The backlash for a company sending beer to someone is probably much greater than in individual.
  15. concealed Member

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    Massachusetts
    yeah no one goes to Vermont for skiing either :)
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  16. skivtjerry Member

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    Vermont
    Waterbury sure smelled wonderful on those days when John was brewing at the old pub and GMCR was roasting.
  17. flayedandskinned Member

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    California
  18. youbrewidrink Member

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    Vermont
    I agree with your logic, but I personallly think the consistent volume of traffic to the Alchemist cannery has a larger impact on the local economy. They also provide enough product to a handfull local reatailers( for now) to increase their traffic.

    From the overnight stay prespective I think the Waterbury beer scene/nightlife generates a fair amount on it's own.

    Lawson's farmers market events also bring a fair amount to the table, just go to The Three Penny Taproom after a market, it's always full of patrons from out of state that are here overnight.

    All in all, we in Vermont need to thank and support the beer industy that puts this tiny state on the map.
  19. dunix Member

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    Vermont
    I agree. Although I'll add, there is a vocal part of the population in the Greater Hardwick area that would much rather Hill Farmstead set up else where. Even more than that, would much rather places like Pete's Greens, Jasper Hill, and High Mowing, pick up shop and move closer to Burlington. Even though this area has really been economically depressed since the 1930s, and is just starting to see revitalization because of these businesses. It is an interesting dynamic, where the people that have lived in the area for generations and have struggled, don't want these new businesses bringing in more dollars to the local economy.

    As for the economic impact, I'd assume businesses like Ben & Jerry's, GMCR, and Cabot Cheese are doing more individually than the entire beer industry combined for the economy as a whole. Does it really matter who does more? Nope. Either way, spend money here so our state doesn't go bankrupt (and my taxes don't go up more) ;)
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  20. Hanzo Member

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    Virginia
    While in theory it would, how much fun would it be to sit and stare at a screen full of "out of stock" notices everyday on their beers?
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  21. gobeartrap Member

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    Massachusetts
    sounds like the Northeast Kingdom in a nutshell
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  22. BeerCosmonaut Member

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    Vermont
    Lots of BANANAS (build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything) in the NEK, even people that haven't been here for generations. Jasper Hill, Pete's and HMS don't even have a ton of customer traffic like HF. Plus HMS is on route 15 anyways. These people are gonna be real upset if Bill Stenger's visions comes to fruition.

    Change is scary!
  23. kinopio Member

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    Massachusetts
    Unless you live on one of those little side roads leading up to HF and are annoyed at the slight increase in traffic it makes no sense to be against having a small brewery there. Some people just like to complain for the hell of it, even if what they are complaining about doesn't affect them negatively at all(Pawnee residents are an all too real depiction).
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  24. dunix Member

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    Vermont
    Upset is putting it mildly imo. Of course most of those people are unemployed or under employed because there are no jobs in NEK other than the businesses listed and of course the new Walmart that is supposedly coming.
  25. brikelly Member

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    New Hampshire
    I'm staying here in Stowe with my wife for the weekend (again) because of HF, Alchemist and Lawson's. We made the trifecta brewery/store visits yesterday and we're gonna spend the next few days visiting restaurants and bars and stores. Definitely wouldn't be here as often if it wasn't for these incredible breweries.

    I saw one other car on Hill Road yesterday. Man, rush hour at HF is craaaaaaazy
  26. skivtjerry Member

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    Vermont

    Friggin' hippies!
  27. Flashy Member

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    Vermont
    There is a fairly large group of people living in Vermont that think the "tourists" are nothing but a bother and believe the job they have would remain, but be less hectic if they all just went away. Love the salt of the earth old-time farmers and the people who moved here because they love the state- but pretty much every in between is a loser. I know because I deal with them everyday.
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  28. Flashy Member

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    Vermont
    Here's a good example. A local winery wanted to expand, so they could host wedding, tours, etc. A former state representative who lived down the road led the charge to stop them, because he didn't want the traffic going down his road and disturb his gardening. And this guy was an former elected state official!
  29. duchessedubourg Member

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    Vermont
    Out him now, please!
  30. jomobono Member

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    Massachusetts
    All you have to do is have these people read a Hill Farmstead bottle:

  31. skivtjerry Member

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    Vermont
    There is a sizeable portion of every population that is rabidly against any change, even for the better (don't want to disturb those slumbering brain cells). Maybe they'd like HF better if Shaun made a Bud Light clone?
  32. Flashy Member

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    Vermont
    I think they just don't undertand economics to any degree what so ever- on top of being a moron.

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