Did a holiday trade with a friend. I sent my box first. I used a beer shipper box inside another box with plenty of packing material. Sent it out Ups and was nervous until it arrived. My buddies box arrived yesterday. When I saw the box on my front porch I just laughed. Everything made it one piece from Colorado to Virginia. Don't think he checks this site but if you do thanks for hooking it up with an awesome box bro. As they say the inside is what counts.