I took a quick look through the threads and didn't see this previously discussed. As I see more and more of these "hitting the shelves" I find myself wondering how everyone else feels about the style. Admittedly I've only sampled a handful of black saisons, and while they are certainly not drain pours, I find that the roasted qualities just don't meld well with the spiciness of the yeast. I was thinking at first that it was just a single beer that was a poor representation or even a matter of personal preference, but the more I try the less I feel either of those reasons are true. I like to think that I give any beer or any style the benefit of the doubt no matter how bad it is. I feel that I can appreciate the direction a beer was meant to go even if it missed the mark, but with these black saisons I just don't know that there will be an end result that will change my mind. I even homebrewed a similar style in hopes of creating a better balance, but have struggled for over a year to finish off the 5 gal batch of bottles. Does any one else feel that this is a style that just isn't meant to be? Are there better representations out there that I've overlooked? Does anyone love this style?