Bad trader

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by Irishace9, Feb 2, 2013.

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  1. Irishace9

    Irishace9 Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Illinois

    How long do you give someone before deciding that you've been duped?
     
  2. RoninTK3

    RoninTK3 Zealot (715) Nov 12, 2012 New Hampshire

    Has there been communication back and forth or are they just ignoring you?
     
  3. abecall98

    abecall98 Savant (1,234) Aug 11, 2007 California
    Trader

    I usually give my bad traders a few hours before I post a thread. If I don't get the box they sent the same day I send mine, BAD TRADER. If they back out of a trade, BAD TRADER. If they have a 2012 BA account, BAD TRADER.

    However, most people usually about a week without communication though. If there has been enough communication, no need to worry. If you haven't heard from him in a week, I would send a BM, and threaten to call him out. No reply, CALL HIM OUT.
     
  4. Bad_Trader

    Bad_Trader Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 Namibia

    Once you come to the realization that you've been 'duped' is when you've been duped. By assuming something must have just come up (the old 'Life Happens' mantra) with the other guy, you can cling to hope, and not have the hard feelings toward yourself for being so gullible and allowing yourself to be duped.

    So, for your sake, I recommend you just assume that box is on the way, and you should probably send another box to the guy, because he's obviously going through a tough period right now, and it would probably cheer him up.
     
  5. Irishace9

    Irishace9 Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Illinois

    Good communication back and forth for a couple days now that my box has been sent he hasn't responded.
     
  6. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    time since you shipped?
     
  7. codysjb

    codysjb Savant (1,018) Jun 16, 2010 Florida
    Trader

    Life does happen every one in a while. Personally i would wait an absolute min of a week or two. Its entirely possible that something came up and if its only been a couple days he may not have been able to get to fedex sue to job restrains/busy circumstance. I know a lot of people give it 2 - 3 months and that seems excessive but i would let someone make good and if they hadnt within 2 weeks then its pretty clear.
     
  8. GennyCreamAle

    GennyCreamAle Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2009 New York

    Can you see via this persons profile whether or not they have been lurking or posting things? If they have been active and he/she is not responding to BM you have an issue I think. If no activity then you still may have an issue, but you could lean toward life happens stuff. Give it a little more time.
     
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  9. robwestcott

    robwestcott Pooh-Bah (1,767) Nov 3, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    uhm, you've not yet reached the bad trader threshold.
     
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  10. black13

    black13 Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Oregon

    Lots of gray area here. Some say call people out ASAP, others say it's only beer and give it time. Before you decide to call someone out this early, make sure they've been logging in. People sometimes go a day or two without logging in. Also, has he read your most recent BM?

    Send a BM letting the trader know your getting a little concerned as there hasn't been any communication. If they respond, all is well. If they read it and don't respond in say 24hrs, send them another BM saying you need some communicaton/confirmation that a box has been sent or you'll start a thread letting everyone know they're a bad trader. Life does come up, but it's not always so tragic that they can't take 15 seconds to send a BM saying what's going on.

    Also, keep everyone up to date on this thread as it's nice to let others know the outcome.
     
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  11. whitekiboko

    whitekiboko Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2006 South Carolina

    Still waiting for the back end of that Krunkles trade...

    Never had to make a post given all the other people he pissed off.
     
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  12. BrewStew58

    BrewStew58 Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2011 New York

    You can check when a person made there last post by clicking there profile pic, then clicking on the number of messages I think.
     
  13. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
    Pooh-Bah

    My experience trading through this site has been nothing but superbly positive. I hope things work out for the OP. Keep us posted.
     
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  14. Irishace9

    Irishace9 Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Illinois

     
  15. Irishace9

    Irishace9 Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Illinois

    I agree. I have quite a few trades in the recent months and couldn't be happier with the generosity people have shown me with add ons etc...I will givevit some more time and hope for the best. I'll keep you guys posted and if it doesn't turn out I will certainly let you all know who it is.
     
  16. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Keep in mind that people have a lot going on their lives and it likely doesn't revolve around trading beer on the internet. I recently took a lot longer than I expected to fulfill my part of a trade and there was never any danger of me not fulfilling my end of the bargain.
     
  17. jmgrub

    jmgrub Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2010 California

    Did you communicate the delay (and reason for the delay) to your trading partner? The lack of communication, not the delay in and of itself, is what makes a bad trader. Most people are understanding that more important things in life sometimes get in the way of beer trading, and with proper communication, all will be copacetic.
     
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  18. Photekut

    Photekut Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2006 Tennessee

    Just because this is the internet does not mean a commitment here is any less valid than anywhere else.

    If you are that busy do not trade.
     
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  19. LambicKing

    LambicKing Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Germany

    So your time and expedient effort are more valuable than your trade partner's? There's something to be said for common courtesy.
     
  20. claaark13

    claaark13 Maven (1,412) Nov 29, 2007 Indiana
    Trader

    Assuming your box didn't just land today or yesterday......

    I agree with Photekut. I have had a number of people in the past (and 2 in the present) send me boxes before I sent them their boxes, for a number of reasons (my timing, their timing, convenience, tasting coming up, etc.). No matter what happens, I make sure that I keep an open communication with them. "Hey, got your box, everything arrived without issue, still planning to ship _____", or "Thanks, everything arrived safely. I'm waiting on ______ bottle(s) and I'll have yours out right after that", or "Hey man, how's it going? Blah blah blah story about my life you don't care about blah blah blah I still am working on your box blah blah blah."

    All it takes is sub-5 minutes to log onto BA and let someone know what's going on. It isn't like deciphering the mystery of what happens within the singularity point of a black hole.
     
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