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Bad Bells Expedition Stout

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by 2beers4U, Oct 21, 2012.

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  1. loki993

    loki993 Savant (250) Michigan Apr 16, 2009

    We have a lot of places here that love marking stuff up.....
  2. Durb777

    Durb777 Savant (450) Illinois Nov 30, 2011 Verified

    No, You havent heard it's cause it wasn't made in 2011. All beer brewed in 2012 just sucks.
  3. Spartan213

    Spartan213 Savant (370) Michigan May 28, 2008 Verified

    Got my six pack for $13.99 so it isn't everywhere in SE MI that is marking up.
  4. I was made in 2011. I have a few bottles with a 11/01/11 bottling date
  5. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Champion (860) Michigan May 8, 2006

    Before we start talking mark up I think it is fair to point out that Expo is about a $17 sixer from Bell's directly. Saying that stores like to mark up prices is the easy answer but not allows the most accurate. I think the low prices in this thread should indicate that some places are selling this beer really low rather than too many places selling too high.
  6. decadance

    decadance Savant (395) Texas Mar 14, 2010

    Well, we know this has we drank a 1992 last year...with Larry...in his office (cue beer nerd jealousy).
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  7. MikeCactusGordon

    MikeCactusGordon Advocate (665) Ohio Feb 20, 2011 Verified

    I bought a 6 pack last week and was it was unique to say the least. The Foam rising was exponential!!!! very few beers in my experience do that.
  8. gratefulbeerhead

    gratefulbeerhead Advocate (685) Indiana Dec 7, 2009 Verified

    Actually was a '94 and it was awesome - this beer nerd is jealous to do it again.


  9. Vav

    Vav Advocate (515) Wisconsin Jul 27, 2008

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  10. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (450) Wisconsin Mar 13, 2010 Verified

    That makes sense I have been noticing as I use this site more and more WI beer prices seem to be lower than the average. What you have to remember though is getting something directly from the manufacturer isn't always the cheapest. A good parallel would be with musical instruments they all have an MSRP and generally if a manufacturer also sells instruments its going to be closer to the MSRP, because they are selling them retail, than a normal music store because they can charge you more directly then they can a music store who has to mark it up to sell it. Without knowing how much liquor stores spend on the beer its hard to know if its unfair mark up or not
  11. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Champion (860) Michigan May 8, 2006

    That brings back memories, tasty tasty memories.
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  12. Corbet

    Corbet Savant (405) Michigan Nov 7, 2010 Verified

    So.... how was it?
  13. gratefulbeerhead

    gratefulbeerhead Advocate (685) Indiana Dec 7, 2009 Verified

    It was incredible. as Kzoobrew said, this beer easily holds up over 20 years. We also had a batch 7,000, 3,000, '99 Eccentric, batch 1589 Third Coast Old Ale 1994 in addition to the 94 Expy from my cellar and Larry pulled out some really old Cherry Stout, a barrel aged Java Stout and a couple of other things. One of my more favorite times with Larry on Eccentric Day.

  14. 2beers4U

    2beers4U Zealot (75) Michigan Nov 12, 2009

    The batch number was 11384 with a 8/28/12 date. With all of the fizz I will sit on it for a year then try it. I had the same problem with Dragonmeads limited release quad this year. What was interesting was I had a 2011 a few days back and it was really good.
  15. Bryan

    Bryan Aficionado (155) Michigan Feb 29, 2012

    Bought a sixer last Friday for tailgating the Michigan game this past weekend. 2/3 of the guys I was with had to pour it out because the product was so terrible. This is my first purchase of a Bell's product in several years (reasons to long to discuss in this thread) but I was very disappointed and do not plan on having any future Bell's products for quite some time.
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  16. chuckstout

    chuckstout Aficionado (245) Ohio May 22, 2006

    Bells beer used to be reasonably priced, what happened?
  17. decadance

    decadance Savant (395) Texas Mar 14, 2010

    You got poorer?
  18. gratefulbeerhead

    gratefulbeerhead Advocate (685) Indiana Dec 7, 2009 Verified

    Probably not my first choice for a tailgating beer, but all of you that are pouring Bell's onto the ground, please stop buying it. There are plenty of us who are more than willing to pour it into our mouths where it is supposed to go.
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  19. I'll gladly take the other 3 off your hands if you still have them. Cash, $4$ with something else. Let me know.

    Looks like you live in Detroit, I work downtown so shouldn't be too hard to get this done. Not that I can't just buy it off the shelf, but I hate the thought of any more Expy getting poured out at a tailgate!
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  20. grumpy

    grumpy Savant (425) Missouri May 24, 2005

    Except for good old batch 6811, which was one of the sweetest beers I've ever had.
  21. kaips1

    kaips1 Savant (285) Kentucky Feb 20, 2011

    ive drank at least a 12pk of this years and it was anything but thin or watery, it tasted right on par with previous releases and has a nice bite right now while its fresh. it sounds like you got a bad bottle
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  22. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Champion (860) Michigan May 8, 2006

    Have you had fresh Expedition before? What was wrong with it? Too many generic comments in this thread saying it was bad but few actual explanation regarding what was bad about it.
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  23. steebo777

    steebo777 Advocate (580) Michigan Jun 30, 2009 Verified

    Damn dude, that's tailgating like a boss!

    I'm assuming you knew its basically an imperial stout and not made for tailgating... more like a long night next to the fire watching a scary movie with a special lady friend and a cigar.
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  24. A few years back a guy at work said he bought a 6 pack and the 1 bottle he had was the worst beer he had ever tasted. A more seasoned craft beer drinker in the discussion said he would take the other 5 off his hands.

    The second guy said they were excellent Expedition Stouts.
  25. sweemzander

    sweemzander Advocate (535) Illinois Mar 26, 2009 Verified

    Easily my most favorite stout to sit on for a few years. Sounds like alot of people in this thread are trying it for the first time and are surprised by the results/tastebuds. Having had Expedition Stout both fresh and aged in all levels I think those who did not care for it fresh would be pleasantly surprised what a few years can do to this beer.

    Never had it as old as a '94 but will look forward to it when bottles I have get that old. (wish it still came in the 750mL bottles)
  26. FEUO

    FEUO Initiate (0) Ontario (Canada) Jul 24, 2012

    Bought a couple 6ers today for $15.99 each. Planned on drinking 6 this season and cellar 6. May cellar 11 after what I am reading.
    Visited 3 shops today with only one of them carrying Expedition. The one that had it only had a couple cases.
  27. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Champion (860) Michigan May 8, 2006

    What has got cheaper over the last several year? Everything is more expensive. You will find very few beers that use the amount of raw material as Bell's does with Expo at a cheaper price. Similar beers in a bomber would cost at least twice the price per ounce. Cheers to Bell's for staying committed to the six pack .

    FWIW Bell's Java Stout is another one which the price has increased. Bell's sources the coffee from a local coffee shop, who buys and roasts their own beans. Coffee has not dropped in price over the last couple years either. Again, I will applaud Bell's for sticking with another local company and not compromising their ingredients for the sake of cutting costs.

    The beer may be more than some people are willing to pay, but the quality is not being compromised and it remains at a very fair price for what you are getting.
  28. dlello2

    dlello2 Savant (380) Illinois Nov 11, 2011

    I'll weigh in here on Expedition. A little over a year ago I got into beer and was blown away by a keg of 2009 expedition stout at Bell's. When it came out in bottles in November I decided I needed to get a few 6 packs (some to drink, some to put in the closet).

    When I opened my first one I was confused and disappointed. It had sharp edges and off flavors. I think I posted a thread similar to this one at that time and was reassured by multiple people that this was the nature of expedition stout. Still, I was upset that I had potentially wasted a good deal of money on a beer that may or may not develop over time.

    Well, I just opened one of those '11 expedition stouts and it has clearly changed. It is much more balanced (and IMO declicious) than it was last year. Guess I should have trusted my fellow BAs.

    Expedition stout is awesome.
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  29. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Advocate (625) Ohio Jul 4, 2008 Verified

    Despite my sticker shock, it doesn't prevent me from buying...if anything it makes me hate the rock bottom pricing of the macros. But then that stuff isn't crafted but mass produced and mass marketed and the rock bottom price matches the rock bottom taste...commence the aging of this years dark lord, Expedition Stout. Ahhhhh winter, bring your fury I've got plenty of dark water to keep me warm URRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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  30. SteelersX

    SteelersX Advocate (500) New York Jan 30, 2011 Verified

    Bad as in naughty? I know Bell's Expedition is always "bad" to me. I drink so much it makes me feel terrible the next day. BAD BEER!:mad:
  31. SpunkyHopslammer

    SpunkyHopslammer Aficionado (230) Illinois Jan 18, 2011 Verified

    To me its much better with a year in the cellar. Sadly, I can't ever let it age any longer.
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