A Homebrewing Riddle - The damaged Glass Carboy

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Would you really try to move an already broken carboy?
     
  2. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    Ok - well, I managed to siphon the entire contents to a new carboy and all is well, for now. I lost track of how many pumps it took, but that shit was no joke. Got a good mixture of trub/yeast in there so I'm staying positive that the yeast that transferred over will clean up the mess they possible made over the last 24-48 hours.

    I'll be honest and say that i'm not too worried about glass. I plan on aging this beer a minimum of 2 more weeks in primary, 2-3 months in secondary (adding either coffee or vanilla beans), and then a few weeks in bottles. At that point, all glass will hopefully have precipitated out at that point. I'll be mindful when transferring to seconday and mindful when pour into a glass. I think it will be fine.
     
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  3. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    Trying to upload a picture. New phone doesn't have flickr loaded onto it yet so I'm trying to use another service.
     
  4. Gritsak

    Gritsak Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2004 West Virginia

    A brewhauler won't prevent the broken glass from collapsing inward. Your only option IMO it so siphon/pump the beer out ASAP. As others have said, you don't really need to be worried about oxidation at this point--there should be a enough fermentation still going on to use up whatever small amount of o2 gets in from transferring the beer.
     
  5. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    Done and done.
     
  6. TheMonkfish

    TheMonkfish Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Chad


    This is what I'd do. In the event that any glass shards are in there I'd consider putting a muslin bag, paint strainer, etc around the intake of the auto siphon after fermentation is complete/when transferring to bottling bucket or keg.
     
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  7. brees6221

    brees6221 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2009 Western Sahara

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  8. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    Thanks for everyone's input. Not a situation I've encountered before but you guys helped me through it. Kudos!
     
  9. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Sure. If I had, which I do, a brew hauler, I would fit that around the carboy. I wouldn't be picking it up by hand to get it around it and under it.

    I'd then lift it into a milk crate to pull it out. I wouldn't be putting any pressure on the neck of it where it was cracked anyways. If it were to shatter in transit, I wouldn't have my hands on it.
     
  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Edit: If it were me, I'd give up on the beer. I would worry too much about glass being in the final product. It wouldn't be worth it to me. If, if capital IF I were going to drink this, I wouldn't rack the bottom 3 quarts and would stay the hell away from the bottom of your secondary when racking. A coffee filter might enter the equation on the bottom of the siphon hose with a rubber band.
     
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  11. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    I will probably use some type of filtration (heard pantyhose work well) when racking the beer. If I filter when moving to secondary and when moving to the bottling bucket I imagine it should be glass free.

    Thanks to brees6221, my spiritual advisor, for posting pictures.
     
  12. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Buy a roll of duct tape and wrap the hell out of your carboy. Let the beer finish as planed and use a good filter when you transfer. Good luck!
     
  13. BiereBlanche

    BiereBlanche Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2007 Colorado

    That's a big chunk of glass missing from the pic - I'd be worried about the small shards, too.

    A) You may throw some gelatin in. Obviously it won't attract glass, but it may help any shards that do precipitate to the bottom stay there while you rack.

    B) Wear some shoes and cover up next time you mess with an already broken glass carboy.

    C) Milk Crate under any glass carboy. In working at a homebrew store I've heard of Brewhaulers slipping/ ripping and carboys breaking.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    +1 to the comment of: “Wear some shoes and cover up next time you mess with an already broken glass carboy.”

    I personally only utilize carboys for my lagers (for lagering). When I am dealing with the carboy I take precautions: wear gloves, wear steel tipped boots, use milk crates, etc.

    I have read many scary stories about carboys breaking; the most interesting/disturbing one was provided by barfdiggs: “I decided to switch when I was looking at a carboy that was drying, and all of the sudden it literally just shattered. No more glass.”

    I recognize that the OP posted: “looking for advice (besides switching to buckets)”. I would feel remiss if I didn’t state: you really should switch to buckets. You were lucky this time around (no injuries, no loss of beer). Plastic buckets (or Better Bottles) are really the way to go.

    Cheers!.
     
  15. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    I appreciate everyone's concern re: glass/injury/proper clothing, etc. Will be sure to wear more appropriate clothing as you never know what could happen.

    I'll probably replace this carboy with a better bottle. I'll just have to keep my sour carboys clearly labeled from my non-sour carboys. I didn't have to worry about separating the two with glass carboys, but that convenience is almost certainly outweighed by the chance for serious injury.
     
  16. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

    Too late this time, but next time, you could just siphon it into a low tray for the coolship effect and have a nice wild RIS. That way you wouldn't have to worry about lifting the carboy out of the fridge.

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  17. trxxpaxxs

    trxxpaxxs Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2010 New York

    Agreed. Fully.
     
  18. 46and2

    46and2 Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2008 Missouri
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    Good call. 12 GA pellets won't go through a USAToday Suit from the tower, but .223 will. You should be safe with a carboy transfer :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  19. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    Well, I promised an update.

    For as dramatic a beginning as this beer had, it had to have a stellar ending. I added 4oz of cacao nibs, 8oz of bourbon that contained 2 vanilla beans and 5oz of oak from black swan (tincture aged for @ 6 months) on 8/30. On 9/14 I added 8 sliced habaneros and on 9/15vi kegged the stout and added some cold steeped guatemalancoffee. The beer is slumbering away at 40* with 9psi. Should be ready for drinking in another week (2 weeks on the gas). Tastes great!

    I racked to secondary using a paint strainer bag and did the same when racking to the keg. The beer had three months to precipitate out any glass and the paint strainer bags would have caught any loose shards as well.

    All's well that ends well.

    Thanks again for everyone's assistance.
     
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  20. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    So was the beer only on the 8 habaneros for a day then?

    I made a habanero tincture with 2 medium sized hab's that I deseeded and deveined first (taking out lots of the potential heat). I added all of the tincture to a 3g keg of imperial porter and it had a solid kick. Couldn't drink more than 22oz of that beer in a session. Then again stronger alcohol tinctures extract better than lower abv beer itself does.....
     
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