What is Craft?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Knownfactor, Feb 8, 2013.

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  1. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    That's true enough. When i'm asked i just say it's better beer from better ingredients.
     
  2. jammalamma

    jammalamma Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2009 New Hampshire

    Quality precision.
     
  3. joeebbs

    joeebbs Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2009 Pennsylvania

    After seeing some threads about different batches of a certain beer being "off" if this brewery isn't getting a good quality every time are they not craft?

    By the same definition if Coors hits all their quality check-points are they craft?
     
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  4. Brew33

    Brew33 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2007 Ohio

    "Craft beer" should have absolutely nothing to do with production numbers. Production output and quality have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
     
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,071) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    So, I'm guessing such an answer, when given by OP to his obviously non-beer-geek customer, might result in a less than satisfactory tip. :wink:
     
  6. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,053) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence?
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Exceptional taste!?!
     
  8. Knownfactor

    Knownfactor Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2010 Colorado

    I personally don't care either way, i just thought it was an interesting question and discussion.
     
  9. Knownfactor

    Knownfactor Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2010 Colorado

    So i said craft could be considered anything produced in small scale by artisans of there trade. using the best ingredients and products. Weather it be cheese makers, wine makers, brewers, cured meat butchers, artists, furniture makers, whatever...

    but then i got to thinking why isn't the consistency and quality control of BMC or tillamook cheese considered craft. They are masters at there trade but because they produce such large quantities they are exempt?
     
  10. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    I dont know. but its still such a unmeaningful debate
     
  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The term of craft beer is often associated with the ‘concept’ of quality. In other words some people would claim that craft beer = quality beer.

    If you are so inclined you can read all about folk’s differing opinions on what quality beer is:http://beeradvocate.com/community/t...the-quality-of-their-beers.57344/#post-763141

    Cheers!
     
  12. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    What about foreign beers? What is a foreign craft beer? Weihenstephaner? Westvleteren?
     
  13. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

    Unless you are making 5 gallons at a time in a carboy in the garage, I would consider it "mass produced".

    I am not sure that any beer (except homebrew) could be considered "hand made". Every brewery tour I have been on recently has lots of computers regulating temperature, opening and closing valves, bottling the beer, packaging, etc. I don't see many human hands involved.
     
  14. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    What is Craft [Beer]?
    1. Something I like to drink.
    2. Something I enjoy drinking.
    3. Something I anticipate enjoying for the rest of my life.
    4. Something I will attempt to educate other people to enjoy.
    5. Something BMC fears.
     
  15. puckinright

    puckinright Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2013 Pennsylvania

    i keep it simple.

    beer that doesn't suck.

    just so happens that my personal definition of 'suck' is adjunct, watered down, mass marketed, crap.
     
  16. puckinright

    puckinright Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2013 Pennsylvania

    clearly not looking hard enough :wink:
     
  17. Dtapeski

    Dtapeski Crusader (407) Oct 26, 2012 Colorado

    It's too bad a bunch of shitty beers already took "premium", because I think if you're going to disregard production numbers, premium is the best description of a superior product made with the highest quality ingredients, which craft really is.
     
  18. JimmyW

    JimmyW Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2011 Illinois

    It's like a home cooked meal in a world of fast food. That's how I perceive it, anyway.
     
  19. emannths

    emannths Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    Yep. To elaborate, check out all the [url="http://www.rolec-gmbh.de/_engl/index.php?site=02]automated brewhouses[/url] that craft beer companies have purchased. Not only do many of these systems do the "physical labor," but many make process "decisions" during each batch.
     
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  20. BetterBeerPlz

    BetterBeerPlz Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2007 Arkansas

    A beer brewed with high quality ingredients and in a manner that produces fresh and intended smells and flavors. That is what it boils down to to me. I am not going to use "tastes good" as a factor because it is too subjective.
     
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