France plans 160% increase on beer tax

Discussion in 'France' started by CASK1, Oct 30, 2012.

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  1. jlenik

    jlenik Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2009 New Jersey

  2. crusian

    crusian Pooh-Bah (1,989) May 14, 2010 Oregon
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    seems like some wine lobbyists may have had some influence here...
     
  3. Bluecane

    Bluecane Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2011 New York

    Freedom fries!
     
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  4. emannths

    emannths Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    The current tax is €2.75 per degree plato per hectolitre, or €0.05 for a 12oz 5% abv beer. This is one of the lowest rates in Europe, about one tenth the tax rate in the UK. A 160% increase amounts to an additional €0.08 per bottle. That's pretty darn small in absolute terms.
     
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  5. gtermi

    gtermi Initiate (0) Apr 21, 2010 Texas

    That's exactly what I was thinking
     
  6. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Grand Pooh-Bah (4,397) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin
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    The change means the price of a beer will increase by about 20 percent in bars and supermarkets, said Jacqueline Lariven, spokeswoman for the French brewer's federation Brasseurs de France.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see total tax revenue from beer either stagnate or drop.
     
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  7. PaulQuinn

    PaulQuinn Initiate (0) May 27, 2011 Canada (BC)

    So that would make €0.13 per bottle. Going by the first chart on the pdf you linked it would take France from 28th on the list to 9th. Not a small increase.
     
  8. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    Well thank God I don't live in France.
     
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  9. emannths

    emannths Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    Also noteworthy: the excise paid by small brewers will be increased by only (or "only," depending on your POV) 80%. Source, in French.
     
  10. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Pooh-Bah (1,945) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts
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    About time they noticed border-hoppers loading their vehicles with beer.

    As emmanths noted the increase is still tiny. Go to Scandinavia if you wanna see high beer taxes....ooof.
     
  11. johnnybgood1999

    johnnybgood1999 Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2008 Virginia

    France is a welfare state looking for more revenue. This isn't a surprise.
     
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  12. dmeadows

    dmeadows Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2002 New York

    Merde!
     
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  13. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Well if we didn't have a reason to dislike France before, we do now. But if that was the U.S., we'd have riots.
     
  14. emannths

    emannths Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2007 Massachusetts

    Riots for an extra $0.08 per beer? You probably waste nearly that much when you throw out your bottles instead of returning them for the deposit.

    There were no riots in Massachusetts when the state voted to apply sales tax to alcohol, effectively increasing the price of craft beer by at least as much (7%, or about $0.10/12oz bottle based on $10/6pk) as this increase in France.
     
  15. Fux

    Fux Pundit (762) Apr 20, 2011 France
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    Welcome to socialism!:confused:
     
  16. cevafm

    cevafm Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Yeah because it's Massachusetts, the bluest of blue states that is used to high taxes. Try something like that in the mid-west or south and see what happens.
     
  17. Duffman929

    Duffman929 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2010 Illinois
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    Someone hasn't been to Cook County before.
     
  18. cevafm

    cevafm Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Your right I have not, please explain.
     
  19. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,149) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    You make a great point. On this site we have people who think nothing of buying expensive bombers. I like beer but it is a pleasure, not a necessity. As long as the tax isn't excessive, I don't have a problem with it.
     
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