Filling generic growlers

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by ModernTimesJacob, Feb 13, 2013.

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  1. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Pooh-Bah (2,211) Oct 24, 2009 California
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    Anyone know what other states don't allow blank growler fills?
     
  2. besaunders

    besaunders Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2007 California

    How many times do people have to say that they have no problem with what you are trying to achieve, but they have a problem with your (alleged) tactics? Some people even have no problem with your tactics themselves, just the haste at which you are applying them.

    Until you let us know a few of the breweries you have reported, however, I'll be in the camp that think you are just blowing a lot of smoke. I am curious in which region you live, though, and which breweries you are allegedly targeting. I think we've established that you aren't in San Diego, and probably not even in Southern California.
     
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  3. flexabull

    flexabull Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2006 California

    Oregon and Nevada come to mind, I'm sure there are many others.
     
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  4. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Nevada lets you fill anything. Go Nevada. Filled a Societe growler with DFH 90 minute, at a liquor store.
     
  5. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    growlerfillsatbrothelsbro
     
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  6. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    I should add - no covering up label, no adding a label, no tag - nothing. OH NOES WE HAVE TO LABEL: IT SO YOU KNOWS TAHERE IS BEER INSIDE#Q@%!%^#
     
  7. Sebowski

    Sebowski Zealot (613) Jan 11, 2010 California

    I know it has been stated in here already, but that is the real issue people should be focussing n to make significant change. Breweries, bars, and Whole Foods, etc... should be able to fill any growler and not worry about labels like most other states. I'm afraid these blank growlers are going to end up being just an excuse for ABC to push aside the real issue of them demanding all their label requirements be met to begin with instead of making a real change to an asinine law.
     
  8. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    MikeTen, why don't you leave your e-mail, phone number, and address so all of the brewers in CA can keep you up-to-date on their plans. Since apparently if they haven't kept you in the loop on their plans with this new information it means they are doing nothing.

    So did you know about Alesmith's plans ahead of them announcing it? How about Modern Times? What about Societe as it appears from Jacob that they are going to take steps?

    I am guessing there are a lot of breweries who are having discussions on how they can not only fill generic growlers but how they can be 100% legal in their fills. This involves planning, label design and approval, and possibly some discussion with lawyers.

    You have been very egocentric this whole time. Just because you don't know what the breweries are doing does not mean they are doing nothing.
     
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  9. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

    Oh god no. I don't want bars filling growlers. Can you imagine what a nightmare it'd be on a Friday night when bartenders are also trying to fill growlers while tending their patrons? I can't imagine that at Toronado or worse, them telling the idiots that they aren't filling any of their special kegs into growlers. I'd be fine with Whole Foods/ bottle shops et al, but not bars.
     
  10. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    At this point, most of us agree that MikeTen's approach was premature and aggressive. Now can we get this thread back to the subject of filling growlers?
     
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  11. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 California

    True, but bars in other places handle it. With extra to-go sales they might be able to hire another staff member. Or have a policy of growler fills only from 11am-5pm. Plus they can do what the Bruery does, put an "*" next to the beers available for growler fills.

    Worse case scenario is busy places like Toro and Hamilton's don't fill growlers. But it should be the businesses' choice, not the government's.
     
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  12. abecall98

    abecall98 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2007 California
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    You can always not go there on a Friday Night. I would love for bars with special beers to fill them. Take the party back home.
     
  13. theconductor

    theconductor Zealot (715) Nov 4, 2008 California

    There's more misplaced blame in this thread than a union meeting.
     
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  14. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

    We're waiting to hear what the breweries approach will be. So far Societe and Alesmith have made announcements, others have not. This is a wait & see approach.
     
  15. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    Do growlers with tape, paper or stickers over the label constitute as blank? So long as there's not conflicting brewery/beer info on the growler it should be fine, right?

    The law doesn't require a blank growler...just that it doesn't "bear" the name of another manufacturer.
     
  16. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

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    This is a blank growler.

    morebeer.com sells them for $8, plus shipping. Pizza Port sells them for $3 or 4, take warm sudsy water and a green scotch brite pad and you can create your own. Or convert an existing one at no cost.
     
  17. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    You missed the point of my post, but thanks for continuing the jackass streak. I was beginning to doubt your candidacy for the BAsshole of the Year Award running against MikeTen.

    According to the law, the growler doesn't have to be blank. And, it shouldn't have to. When breweries require blank growlers, it leads me to believe they don't understand the law. Hence my question.
     
  18. MacNCheese

    MacNCheese Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2011 California

    Only I can award BAsshole Awards. And I'm the Grand Poohbah anyway. You can't award me my own award.

    MTJacob pretty much summed it up in his post, he's going to sell and fill blank growlers. The law does state if the growler's marking are obscured another brewery can fill it, but I do not read that as an obscured growler = blank growler. Blank has no markings, even if they are obscured. Which is why I provided a picture and a How-To guide to making your own.
     
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  19. rrryanc

    rrryanc Pundit (884) May 19, 2006 California

    So Alesmith then? You're awfully privy to a lot of "insider" information for someone that doesn't work for the breweries.

    Again, I just don't understand the brewery apologist stance. Any easy appeasing tact would have been to put out a notice in any of the thousands of emails, blog posts, facebook pages or even tweets that said "We heard about the new growler clarifications - looking into how we can make that work!"

    And indeed, the clarification has pointed out that how they're selling growlers now is illegal. So we're supposed to be ignore the part of the law that benefits breweries, while being patient with the part that benefits consumers. Really?

    MikeTen was a bit abrasive about it, but he wasn't wrong. Breweries are trying to have it both ways with the growler law right now, and they absolutely, 100% should be called out on it.
     
  20. rrryanc

    rrryanc Pundit (884) May 19, 2006 California

    Also, just to be super clear, I don't have it out for any of the brewers out there. I just think that, by and large, they do a pretty terrible job with customer relations and customer service. We're past having to grovel and beg for good beer - there's a lot of providers out there nowadays. Lets stop excusing lousy customer service please!
     
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