Moosbacher Schwarze Weisse - Private Landbrauerei Scheuerer

BuckeyeNation

Iowa

3.55/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bronzed rustic orange with Sunkist edges. I'll wait for the toasted marshmallow-colored head to fall a bit so that I can add more beer to the glass before proceeding. I just know that there must be yeast in there somewhere and I want to give Schwarze Weisse every chance to impress. The cap is a bit stiff and brittle. It still manages to persist, but lays down very little lace.

The second pour results in a darker, richer, rosier glow and the hoped for fine yeast (and the final pour murks the beer up something fierce). I like the nose since it has all of the requisite style elements; it just needs to be bolder. I'm not sure that I could identify it as coming from a dunkel weizen (as opposed to a hefe weizen) since there's very little dark maltiness. Bruised banana and clove are pretty well accounted for however.

This is pretty good beer, if a little mild for my tastes. My hope is that the metallic nature of the the first few mouthfuls will fade (it does). More malt would definitely be the first order of business if I could tweak the recipe. I like my dunkels to be nice and dunkelish and this one falls just a bit short in that department.

The banana esters and clove spice are pleasant on the palate and are present in roughly equal proportions. Even more yeastiness would improve things quite a bit though since, again, this is a beer that is somewhat short on flavor intensity. As far as flavor sensations, it's more bitter than sour than sweet. A clean finish could hardly be avoided given the relative lack of ingredients.

Beer of this style ought to be a little more full. It also ought to be softer and less carbonated. For all that, the mouthfeel is serviceable and doesn't impinge too awful much on enjoyability. More malt please.

Moosbacher Schwarze Weisse isn't a vastly different beer than was Moosbacher Weissbier. Yeah, they taste different due to the different styles, but in terms of quality they're two peas in a pod. Or, if you prefer the German, 'sich gleichen wie ein Ei dem anderen'. This is a decent dunkel weizen without being an especially memorable one.

Serving type: bottle

08-11-2006 15:17:04 | More by BuckeyeNation

mikesgroove

South Carolina

3.98/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

picked up for the hell of it as i needed a swingtop for a little experiment and this was 2.99 and i had not tried it. poured into a nonic on 1.14.10.

decent pour, nothing crazy with a dark amber, hazelnut color and a nice head that faded kinda quickly on me before i got to take a whiff of it. interesting aroma as i get roasted malts, light hops, touches of banana and clove, grasses and a touch of smoke, which all carries over into the flavor. nice balance here with tons of malts and a light fruit that keeps it all together quite well i have to admit. lots of grass and touches of banana and cereal grains seem to keep it going quite nicely. really cool little finish which is light and dry but pops a touch of brown sugar out of no where.

a touch unique for the style and I really liked it. would not mind doing this one again any day.

Serving type: bottle

01-16-2011 05:25:55 | More by mikesgroove

brentk56

North Carolina

3.8/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear amber with a rather unimpressive head that is matched by its lack of retention and lacing

Smell: Bananas and raisins, along with cocoa, nuts and a hint of clove

Taste: Banana and dark bread, with a developing cocoa, raisin and nut flavor; a little tartness arrives, after the swallow and lingers into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation; lacks the creamy mouthfeel of the better Germans

Overall: The label wasn't notched, so I don't know anything about the age of the beer; overall, it was decent enough but could have benefited from a stronger malt profile

Serving type: bottle

06-13-2012 20:23:40 | More by brentk56

BEERchitect

Kentucky

3.48/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This, the fourth and final beer on this tour of Moosbacher beers. And, to be honest, I'm quite happy about that. Though I find these beers boring as all hell, this one is decidedly the most interesting.

Maybe a bit limp in the pour, but the dark rusty, murky beer gives a nice white-ish head that retains much better than the other beers from the brewery. The beer laces with some confidence and takes on a standard Dunkelwiess look.

Fruity, peppery, spicy, and malty to the nose. A moderate blend of wheat mixes with both pilsner malts and dark grains for a deep bready, toasty base. Plumbs, grapes, dates, and figs set the stage for the yeasty esters, then give an interesting contrast to the spicy clove, white peppery, and herbal hop bite.

Though the beer beer heavily favors maltiness instead of graininess in texture, the beer could use a stronger malt foundation to help with firmness, roundness, and fullness.

I think they are on to something with this beer, but it is the characteristics of the brewery to under-malt their beers. Though clean, crisp, and refreshing; the lack of meaningful maltiness leaves the beer wonderless.

Serving type: bottle

08-07-2009 04:07:51 | More by BEERchitect

feloniousmonk

Minnesota

3.58/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Moosbacher Schwarze Weisse Dark Wheat Beer, Private Landbrauerei Scheuerer, Moosbach, Germany, 92709. Since 1887. Product of Bavaria, Germany.

Clear, caramel-y brown tint, lush, lace-leaving cocoa-toned head.

Sweet, cola-like nose. Hints of raisins and plum. Malty, with a slice of spice.

Tasting it: Clean and even malty mouthfeel. Flavors of cocoa and nuts. Minor hops. Smooth wheat character comes through, very scrumptious.

Serving type: bottle

05-01-2011 09:05:59 | More by feloniousmonk

WesWes

New York

3.15/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The beer pours a hazy brown color with a thick frothy offwhite head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is decent. It has a fruity banana clove scent along with a light wheat, crystal, and pale malt aroma. It's very dry with a slight crystal malt sweetness. The taste is average. It has an extremely dry wheat malt flavor with just a touch of fruity yeast esters. It's quite earthy with little crystal malt sweetness. The mouthfeel is average also. It is a low bodied beer with good carbonation. This is an average dunkel. It's looks great, but it's not very interesting.

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2008 00:31:09 | More by WesWes

drabmuh

Maryland

3.33/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 0.5 L bottle into an Erdinger 0.5 L wheat beer glass, beer served with yeast (intentionally). Beer is dark brown, forms a white head that falls away leaving lacing on the glass. Carbonation is high with large bubbles, very steady. Head does not stand up.

Beer has a very slight ester aroma, some metallic character. Could have done a lot here but didn't.

Beer has a slight harshness to it. There is a flavor of roast there, subtle. There isn't much bitterness. This beer is wet, not dry, interesting, but not my favorite dunkel, not by a long shot. Drinkability is moderate but its still sessionable. I don't think I would order it again but it may be an important stop on the dunkelweiss journey.

Serving type: bottle

12-02-2009 03:34:52 | More by drabmuh

Mora2000

Texas

3.68/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to bu11zeye for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours an amber color with a huge white head. The aroma is a lot of toffee and caramel malts with some wheat, orange and earthy hops characteristics. The flavor is wheat with a lot of toffee. I also get some citrus. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

Serving type: bottle

08-04-2010 04:53:22 | More by Mora2000

emerge077

Illinois

3.1/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

BBD: 06/2010

Made sure to pull this from the cooler and checked the date before buying. Poured fairly cold into a weizen glass. Three fingers of foam at first, that settled to a sturdy skim that held pretty well.

Dull aroma of musty wet stone, not really what I was expecting. Sort of oxidized, husky and wheaty. No clove, banana, or any typical Hefe aroma. A weird cidery trace that reminds me of an off bottle of Moonglow I had once.

Flavor is a little better after it sits for a little while. Papery and oxidized somewhat, thin and bland. Something vaguely like apple cider and nutmeg. Aftertaste is dull and flaccid. The hollowness makes me think it's past it's prime, though the label says it has 6 months on it. The body is ok, it feels like a weizen, just without any flavor. Slowly working on finishing this, but wouldn't drink it again.

Serving type: bottle

01-01-2010 00:47:42 | More by emerge077

jwc215

New Jersey

3.68/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

500 ml swing-top bottle. It has a freshness label - no month notched though, and both years of 08 and 09 notched - odd that (multiple choice?) - poured into a weizen glass:

Pours a huge tan head over a cloudy orangeish brown. The head settles to a rocky/foamy lasting cover.

The smell is of assertive banana/clove with a wheat tang and caramel and earthy notes.

The taste does not live up to the expectations of the nose. It is spicy (clove) earthy, caramelish but with a touch of a metallic tinge. Banana more subdued than in the nose. Not quite as sweet and dark as expected. Finishes semi-dry.

Initial effervescence turns swishy and watery. Smooth, thirst-quenching, but thin with awkward carbonation.

Drinkable - a bit bitterish for style, which would be fine, but the expected malt character seems restrained for a dunkel. All-in-all it becomes less impressive down the line, but in the end is still a nice dunkelweisse (don't really get the "schwarze" part - they should call it "dunkelweisse, as that's what it is - dark but not black). Anyway, certainly worth trying!

Serving type: bottle

07-09-2008 11:40:33 | More by jwc215

WVbeergeek

Ohio

3.73/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Definitely more so in the dunkel weisse vein than a new style called a Schwarze Weisse. No where near black in appearance a slightly clouded amber chestnut brown with a bright white head forming thick with soft carbonation rolling with tightly packed bubbles. Lacing fares well and sticks on the edges of the glass in sporadic patterns. Aroma has a slight nutty tobacco herbal quality with fruity banan bread notes as well slightly spicy with clove and some extra estery goodness follows. Flavor wise this one deals slightly sour tart edge with the banana and clove mild roasty and nutty finish a pretty nice mix and definitely easy drinkin' version of the style. Mouthfeel is light bodied especially for a darker weisse beer, but carbonation is soft and delicate yet carries the beer extremely well. Drinkability overall is pretty effortless and carefree the only thing slowing down my consumption of this version of the style would be the price per bottle compared to buying a case of Franzy or Paulaner examples. Solid and refreshing beer that I'm sure I'll try out again in the future.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2009 19:21:39 | More by WVbeergeek

rhoadsrage

Illinois

3.53/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a nonic)
A- This beer has a clean but dense dark brown body with a sea of microbubbles supporting a bubble cob web of a head.
S- The toasted brown bread aroma has a pretty clean finish. T- The yeasty flavor and clove have a softer banana estery hint and a slight tartness in the dry finish.
M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a pretty fizzy finish that is almost bitey. There is no alcohol heat noticed.
D- The fizz really oppresses the flavors and there isn't much depth to it but it does have some of the classic hefe characters underneath.

Serving type: bottle

08-31-2010 03:08:26 | More by rhoadsrage

ppoitras

Massachusetts

3.65/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

16.9oz bottle via Christmas gift. Thanks for the opportunity, Kris. Notched best by Mar07.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 3" tan head above the clear dark caramel brew. Head fades down sedately, but still keeps an 1" of height, with hordes of thick, coating lacing. Aroma is clovey spicy wheat. Taste is sweet upfront, then the wheat flavors kick in, with citrus lingering. Mouthfeel seems a bit thin, but is quite smooth, and drinkability is alright as well. Not a bad beer, but not one I'd probably head out to find again.

Serving type: bottle

01-12-2007 22:15:17 | More by ppoitras

Brad007

Vermont

3.23/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a mild brown color with a one-finger head into my glass. Looks somewhat uninspiring.

Aroma is full of faint hints of clove and wheat. Not much else seems to be there. A little weak as well.

Taste is once again uninspired with a weak amount of wheat showing through. Watery as well.

Mouthfeel? Why bother? I'm not sure why I'd comment there.

Not bad but certainly uninspiring and I've had better examples of the style. I assume it would taste better on tap.

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2010 04:47:15 | More by Brad007

JohnGalt1

Idaho

4.13/5  rDev +19%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

1/2 ltr fliptop from Market Limone in Nampa sometime last week.... shared with my work buddy Matt.. Matt loves a good German Wheat.. but he wasn't too hip on this one or the last... I am! Label shows best by 12/8.

Poured into my smaller weizen glass.. 3 finger head drops back leaving spotty lacing.. atop a slightly hazy dark chestnut brew.

Aroma is less than many dark weizens.. but it is still there and out front.. clove and bananas with a slight caramel component..

Flavor is very fresh!! Banana milkshake.. spicy clove finish with some lite caramel sweetness to be the big bow that ties it all together.. carbonation is muted.. but that helps the body.. Rich as it warms.. very nice.

I am getting out of this review early because I want to go enjoy the last half of my glass and I need to move the sprinklers.. :-)

Overall.. pretty good.. very good.. Expensive.. but I am really glad I had a chance to try it.

Serving type: bottle

06-20-2008 08:45:17 | More by JohnGalt1

Cyberkedi

Georgia

3.08/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours a clear golden brown with a fairly thick pale tan head that hangs around for a little. Aroma is malty with a strong overtone of fruit, mainly apple, and a hint of spice. Flavor is malty and a little fruity, not very well rounded but still acceptable. Texture is quite fizzy, just a bit on the watery side, but it leaves behind a decent tingle. Overall, not too shabby.

Serving type: bottle

03-02-2011 01:51:36 | More by Cyberkedi

RoyalT

Ohio

3.1/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance - This is a foam monster of course with a nice, tanned head and a thick, hearty brown body.

Smell - The malts are really nice here at the nose and the light yeast compliment is enough to get a thumbs up from me. There's kind of a stale character here though that keeps me from wanting to dive right in.

Taste - Yeah this really doesn't produce at the taste. The wheat totally wimped out and the yeast is OK but just very light. There's no bready character to this at all and the finish just falls right off the table.

Mouthfeel - This is bigger than light-bodied but not medium and the carbonation is cheap and fizzy like an Alka-Seltzer.

Sinkability - I really enjoyed their Helles Lager but this completely missed the mark.

Serving type: bottle

10-19-2010 02:34:21 | More by RoyalT

blackie

Virginia

3.53/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

a: 1/2" khaki head atop a rich, dark hazy brown beer

smell and taste: Bland and metallic at first, especially on the nose, but the nutty, yeasty banana bread eventually comes around. A nice hop presence even develops

m: Highly fizzy and prickly at first, but it settles down over the course. Light-medium in body.

d: a little inconsistent, fizzy and metallic at first but improving in depth and mouthfeel over time

Serving type: bottle

08-19-2007 00:51:42 | More by blackie

drpimento

Wisconsin

2.85/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Got this bottle at Sam's in Chicago. Bottle had a great little pop when I opened it. Poured with a big light tan foamy, frothy head and some lace. Light typical Bavarian Weisse nose. Flavor was the same but maltier and wheaty. Also a little metallic flavor. Body is good, full with good carbonation. Color is a brownish dark amber. Ok beer, I guess. Had many better dark weisses. Finish is ok. Could be a session if you can get around the metallic thing.

Serving type: bottle

06-13-2009 18:49:35 | More by drpimento

Vancer

Illinois

3.58/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not a bad little black white beer, missing some elements, but still a study drinker if you come across it.

Poured a clear (in the beginning) deep cola brown, topped with a nice frothy ivory head. Good lacing.

Strange aroma of woody malts – where’s the clove or banana? Certainly not in the quaff either – but a tasty caramel with a spicy wheat backbone kicked in.

Firm body and finished crisp, even when the bottom yeasties were swirled into the mix. I could easily drink more, but won’t make a big effort to get it again.

Serving type: bottle

12-13-2007 14:19:41 | More by Vancer

GCBrewingCo

North Carolina

3.68/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer poured into the Tucher glass clear at first, but cloudy with yeast near the end of the pour. The color was dark brown with a hazy characteristic and an off-white head which rose tall and slow and fell the same to lace the glass.

The aroma was smoky and lightly roasty with a toast characteristic. Wheat and a fruity banana presence were notable as was a very light chocolate.

The flavor was lighter than expected with a moderate fruity banana character and a decent level of bittering. The smoky character in the aroma was light in the flavor, yet present. The flavor was lightly crisp and contained a bit of spice as well as a nice wheat presence. The flavor was also lightly toasty with a hint of roast charcter and chocolate.

The finish was dry with a pleasant very slight smoky presence into the aftertaste coupled with a light fruit character lasting a similar length of time. The body was medium light and the carbonation was relatively high. The wheat and the carbonation led to a nice mouthfeel and a carbonic bite to the beer. The beer's drinkabilty was pretty good also.

0.5l flip top bottle. Best before 10 06 on label.

Serving type: bottle

04-28-2006 23:00:11 | More by GCBrewingCo

Suds

Pennsylvania

3.53/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer is a murky, chocolate-milk colored brown. Muddy, yeasty, and sporting a towering head, the beer is nicely attractive. The aroma is full of the usual twangy, wheat character and citric smell of a weisse. Lots of yeast, a touch of pale malt. Still, it's not particularly interesting...average at best. The taste is a bit more spritzy and citric, with a little pepper, spice, and light roasted notes underneath. Nice. Spritzy and enjoyable mouthfeel.

Serving type: bottle

10-29-2011 19:03:52 | More by Suds

DavoleBomb

Ohio

2.95/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Got this on sale for $2.99 at WineSource in Baltimore.

3.5 A: Dark, blackish copper. Large head formation that forced me to pour extrodinary slow. Some lacing, but meager compared to the head. Yeast sediment hanging out on the bottom

3.0 S: Sweet bananas. Low hop profile, but a little grassy. There is also a reasonably strong aroma of rust.

3.5 T: Again, bananas. Next is earthiness and metal. It has a good flavor, it's just hard to get to it because of the carbonation.

2.0 M: Way, way, way too much carbonation. It's so bad that you can't taste the beer for a few seconds.

2.0 D: I'm afraid that if I drink too much of this, my stomach will explode from all the pressure created by the copius amounts of carbonation.

Serving type: bottle

09-17-2008 22:37:38 | More by DavoleBomb

Reidrover

Oregon

3.48/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

500ml swing top bottle "Schwarze Weisse".From Capital Market, Salem.$3.49 Huge POP when the swing top is opened!!! HUge white head is released into my glass..rakes a while for it to calm down..not a good sign! When i can actually now see the beer its a redish amber colur..head is large and thickly frothy. Aroma is actually OK Bready, spicy yeasts,some barnyard and orange! Taste is pretty much the same as the aroma..kinda ends very abruptly though. Ok on the palate i actually liked the carbonation..very refeshing. Overall not great but certainlly not bad.

Serving type: bottle

01-17-2011 07:10:46 | More by Reidrover

cjgator3

Florida

3.95/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

16.9oz flip-top bottle poured into a weizen glass. Pours a dark brownish color with a nice off-white head that possesses excellent retention and lacing. The aroma is wheat with some banana and clove and a bit of yeastiness. The taste is a nice dose of wheat and malt with some spices and a yeasty finish. Overall, Moosbacher Schwarze Weisse is a solid Dunkelweizen that is perfect for a hot summer day. Recommended.

Serving type: bottle

06-15-2008 03:03:05 | More by cjgator3