Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Co.

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rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 11.86%
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Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Co. visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating. bottle (90), on-tap (4), growler (1)

Notes:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.
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Reviews by alexgash:
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alexgash

Connecticut

4.05/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle. Release #7. 7.7% abv.

Dark cola brown body. Finger of very creamy, thick, light peanut brown head. Great lacing. Nose is a nice mix of porter and pumpkin. Roasted malts, cocoa, and coffee blend with squash, brown sugar, and spices (ginger, vanilla, and nutmeg).

Taste starts with bitter cocoa nibs and coffee. Slightly sharp and almost astringent. Milk chocolate and roasted barley settle in. Some gourdy sweetness as well. Vanilla and ginger show up in the finish with lingering roasted bitterness. Medium-full body with a slightly slick feel. Tasty and well done.

Serving type: bottle

10-04-2012 02:34:44 | More by alexgash
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mikeburd1128

New Jersey

3.25/5  rDev -16.2%

05-12-2013 17:25:35 | More by mikeburd1128
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bluckbeyes

Oregon

4/5  rDev +3.1%

05-10-2013 01:01:10 | More by bluckbeyes
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drgonzo2k2

California

4.25/5  rDev +9.5%

04-20-2013 13:58:25 | More by drgonzo2k2
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mactrail

California

3.85/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark chestnut color in the chalice. Decent foam and lively on the tongue.

The spice is pleasant rather than flamboyant. Cloves and a little cinnamon. Starts out sweet with warm malt flavors but changes to a dry finish. A substantial burnt sugar and bark taste. The squash shows up as a yammy quality. Ends on a bitter note, so it does have some hoppy underpinnings. Quite drinkable. Also it's a nice strength-- stronger than average but not a ten percenter. This would be one to watch for during the holidays.

From the 22 oz bottle bought at Bine and Vine in San Diego. This is Batch #8 and 7.7% ABV.

Serving type: bottle

04-06-2013 05:35:30 | More by mactrail
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nickfran

New Jersey

3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

03-18-2013 22:53:13 | More by nickfran
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CEDAMA

California

5/5  rDev +28.9%

03-08-2013 01:45:46 | More by CEDAMA
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DrIPA

Michigan

3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

03-07-2013 01:00:11 | More by DrIPA
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Therisse

California

4.25/5  rDev +9.5%

02-26-2013 17:38:13 | More by Therisse
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FremontBar

Arizona

4.25/5  rDev +9.5%

02-01-2013 02:36:23 | More by FremontBar
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ste5venla

California

4/5  rDev +3.1%

01-31-2013 01:59:42 | More by ste5venla
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jvillefan

California

4.5/5  rDev +16%

01-29-2013 03:35:36 | More by jvillefan
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kojevergas

California

3.23/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I gained confidence in Epic after trying Big Bad Baptist, which really impressed me. So I picked this one up for $8.99 at a local shop. 1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high given the style, hype, and brewery.

Exponential series. DC Brau collaboration. Release #8. 7.7% ABV according to my label.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger gorgeous frothy khaki colour head of very good cream and thickness, and good (~3 minute) retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a solid nontransparent opaque black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Par for the style, but with a nice appealing head. So far so good. There's nothing unique or special about it.

Sm: Pumpkin gourd and some spice: nutmeg, cinnamon, maybe rosemary. Dark malts, cream, a hint of coffee. Timid underlying caramelization. Maybe a fleeting tinge of vanilla. A well executed aroma for a pumpkin porter. Evocative and appealing. Moderate in strength. I'm excited to try it. Little hopping here. Good aromatics.

T: Pumpkin notes are delightful; it's not just the meaty gourd but also the fruit aspect (yes, pumpkin is a fruit). Light spicing; mainly nutmeg but also some rosemary. Dark malts fill out the foundation with little caramelization. Some light milky cream lends the body character. It's simply executed, but effectively so. There's not a great deal of subtlety to it, but it hits the right notes for the style. No yeast character comes through, nor does any alcohol. I don't get any roasted barley, which is a damn shame. Coffee is also missing. There's maybe some chocolate malt here, but no true chocolate. Well layered and definitely balanced, but it does leave something to be desired. This isn't unique or special.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Some creamy quality. Good carbonation, if a touch too high. Good palate presence. Too thin; it flirts with weakness. This is by far its main flaw. Suits the flavours generally.

Dr: I like it, but it doesn't bring anything truly remarkable to the table. It's decently priced for what it is, and it isn't as messy as many collaboration beers. Hides its ABV well. Quite drinkable. I might try it on-draught (I'm told the DC Brau variant was draught only) but I wouldn't get the bottled version again. A likable pumpkin porter that will meet your expectations but not surpass them.

High C+

Beers to compare with: Alpine Ichabod

A poor candidate for aging. Drink within 1-6 months.

Drank fine from a goblet. A snifter or teku is probably ideal.

Pair with chocolate or marmalade on bread.

Serving type: bottle

01-25-2013 04:44:03 | More by kojevergas
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beerpadawan

California

3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

01-23-2013 18:39:35 | More by beerpadawan
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DragonzBreath

Michigan

4/5  rDev +3.1%

01-13-2013 16:32:01 | More by DragonzBreath
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brstls4drmrs

North Carolina

4.13/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A - Pours a dark brown liquid with a beige/white head. Good retention with some sticking around like raindrops on a window.

S - Mild roast character with hints of pumpkin and faint chocolate. Very little coffee in there with some creamy vanilla bean as well. Very nice nose.

T - Malty and a little coco on the beginning with some pumpkin on the finish with some hints of spice. not bad.

M - Mild/Med carbonation and fairly smooth.

O - Not a bad porter.. A great scent on this one.

Serving type: on-tap

01-11-2013 21:40:22 | More by brstls4drmrs
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lightfool

New Jersey

4/5  rDev +3.1%

01-05-2013 00:54:20 | More by lightfool
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palma

New York

4.48/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Delicious pumpkin stout here.

Aroma of roasted nuts, fig, pumpkin meat. Cherry. Vanilla. Peanut butter. More malty roastiness. Faint alcohol whiffs.

Taste is excellent. Roasty goodness. Cocoa. Burnt nuttiness. Pumpkin flesh. More pumpkin at the end. All this roastiness complemented very well with the sweet pumpkin notes. Pumpkin is definitely more pronounced at the end.

Mouthfeel is almost perfect. Creamy. Mild. Silky. Good carbonation.

The porter attributes are definitely still all the showcase here. The pumpkin is not over done. Very nice and extremely complex for a sweet pumpkin beer. Just well crafted all around.

Serving type: bottle

12-27-2012 18:08:36 | More by palma
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xnicknj

Pennsylvania

2.65/5  rDev -31.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

22oz bottle poured into taster - thanks rob

Pours a clearish, lightly hazed copper, burnt orange color with a thin layering of white head on top. Fades out into a slick of film with some spotty lacing on the glass.

Heavy pumpkin spice with cinnamon and clove, touches of vanilla and chocolate. Pumpkiny with acrid booze and burnt sugar.

Sharp, intense pumpkin-driven spice up front with an off-putting amount of cinnamon and nutmeg which seems to dry out the tongue. Chocolate malts mixed with cloyingly sweet vanilla and an avalanche of candy corn pumpkin. Finishes boozy and sweet.

Lighter medium body, decent carbonation, thin, watery and sticky on the tongue. I'm notorious in my group for hating on pumpkin beers, and stuff like this is exactly why. Simply too much in nearly every category - too sweet, too boozy, too spicy, too thin. I enjoy some of Epic's beers but this is a pretty large miss for me.

Serving type: bottle

12-26-2012 14:02:11 | More by xnicknj
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liamt07

Ontario (Canada)

3.85/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Steve, 650ml into a tulip. Release #8.

Black body with a light brown head. Good retention and spots of lace. Nose has some light pumpkin pie spicing, some roast, smoke and some peripheral vegetal and anise. Taste is roasty and drying, cocoa, pumpkin pie spicing midpalate and into the finish. Creamy thinner medium body and medium low carbonation. A nice pumpkin spiced porter, much nicer as it warms.

Serving type: bottle

12-24-2012 17:54:27 | More by liamt07
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YamagamiTravis

Japan

4.5/5  rDev +16%

12-23-2012 12:47:51 | More by YamagamiTravis
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SColl

District of Columbia

2.8/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Date Dec. 3, 2012
Type/ Style Pumpkin Ale
Package 22oz Bottle
Location Home
ABV 7.7%

Aroma: Strong Pumpkin, Sugary Sweetness

Appearance: Dark Black, Good Head Retention

Body/Texture: Smooth, Creamy, Medium Body, Didn't Quite Fill Mouth

Aftertaste: Pumpkin, Alcohol, Ginger, Cinnamon, Bitter

Overall: 3.0/5 Flavors weren't in balance, too much spice and bitter aftertaste turned me off.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2012 17:17:14 | More by SColl
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northyorksammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.6/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Brown coloured body with little head. Just spice, perhaps a touch of pumpkin in the finish. Roasted coffee taste. Decent drinkability. Spiced out, pumpkined out. SOme chocolate malt, even more would be interesting but too odd for the style.
And the spices could have been betterMediumm mouthfeel. Liam's bottle.

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2012 02:54:23 | More by northyorksammy
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t420o

California

4.4/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Epic/DC Brau Fermentation Without Representation

A- pour produces a 1 finger tan head resting on a deep brown body. Head recedes somewhat quick leaving little in the way of lacing 3.5 

S- fresh pumpkin, pumpkin spice, chocolate malt, mollases. The pumpkin and spice is most prevalent but in a fresh way, not a fake or overly sweet way. Smells excellent 4.5

T- I really like this beer a lot. Pumpkin, pumpkin spice, chocolate, caramalized brown sugar, roasted malt, vanilla and slightly dry on the back end. I really like that it retains the porter character but is still a pumpin beer first and foremost. Excellent beer. 4.5 

M- nice silky mouthfeel. On the lighter side carbonation-wise 4

O- excellent. I'm going back to buy more immediately. I really like pumpkin beers and this is very close to the top of my list for pumpkin beers. 4.5

A

Serving type: bottle

12-14-2012 22:52:48 | More by t420o
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TerrapinWakenBake

North Carolina

4/5  rDev +3.1%

12-10-2012 22:21:18 | More by TerrapinWakenBake
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Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Co.
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