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Taps: 40 / Bottles: 30
Cask: N / Beer-to-Go: N
$$$ - a bit pricey
[ Bar, Eatery ]
3229 Helms Ave
phone: (310) 736-2224
(Place added by: drewbage on 04-25-2008)
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vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 3 | selection: 3.5 | $$$$
Stopped by here today after picking up some CDs down the street, got my ID checked at the door, first thing I noticed was the long and slender outdoor patio that was completely filled, then I walked in and got in line for about five minutes, people immediately seemed less snobby as the other Santa Monica location, was already having a better time, I ordered a New Belgium Lips of Faith Series Le Fleur Misseur, it was served at the right temperature in some kind of thick flute/snifter glass, unfortunately it was eight dollars, could not have been more than twelve ounces either, pretty sad when it is $4.50 everywhere else I have seen it so far, anyways I grabbed my beer and stood up next to a television until a seat opened, then I sat down and watched the Lakers game, did not take me more than twenty minutes to drink my beer and it is was quite good, I left after that because it started to get pretty crowded after halftime, atmosphere was upper class and full of businessmen, saw about fifteen different people eating the burger which I still have not tried, did not order any food this time either, place was very clean and high quality, service was not the greatest and the bartender that served me thought he was something else but that was expected in a way, selection was pretty good for the LA area, I will try to remember as many taps as I possibly can right here: there was 32 total, Young's Oatmeal Stout, the New Belgium I tasted, Russian River Perdition and Damnation, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Torpedo Extra India Pale Ale, Craftsman Heavenly Hefeweizen, 1903 Lager, and Orange Cream I believe, Maudite, Rogue Hazelnut Brown and Shakespeare Stout, Old Speckled Hen, Old Rasputin Imperial Stout, Chimay Cinq Cents, Saison Dupont, Duvel, Maredsous 8, Anderson Valley Poleeko Pale Ale and Hop Ottin' IPA, and Alesmith Anvil ESB, prices range from six to eight dollars from what I saw, food always looks good but I seem to eat dinner before I go, particularly interested in trying the sweet potato fries in the future, my advice is to not expect too much from the beer selection here if you visit places like Naja's and Daily Pint in this area, still they have some good stuff and is a neat place, I like the new location a lot more than the first one, will probably go back pretty soon once they get Pliny the Elder on tap, my avatar has not been fed for quite some time haha, you check this spot out if you have the chance
06-06-2008 03:46:30 |
More by Floydster
vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 3.5 | selection: 4 | food: 4.5 | $$$$
I have been to this Father's Office location a few times, most recently last night. The space is a pretty cool design with lots of wood and leather. They take the idea of a father's space seriously. The atmosphere is good with a wide variety of people of all ages crammed in a smallish location. They have a nice selection of constantly changing taps and bottles representing a good selection of styles. The food there is pretty awesome, especially their burger. The quality of the beer and food is very good. Service is above average but nothing special. You order all drinks and food at the bar and seat yourself. The only real complaint I have with Father's Office is their prices. Everything here seems so expensive for both beer and food. For example, their burger with the fries on the side will run you $15. I had a smaller pour of the 2011 Stone IRS and it was $8. This is a good place to come every once in a while when you have some extra cash to burn.
06-27-2011 02:39:24 |
More by UCLABrewN84
vibe: 3.5 | quality: 3.5 | service: 4 | selection: 4 | food: 2 | $$$
On the site of what once was Helm's Bakery is Fathers Office II. Back in the day Helm's was the baking Co. for L.A. The site has been wonderfully restored into shops and restaurants.
When I arrived here I sat at the bar, something I would later regret, it was not busy, like two other people at the bar. No RR brews so I tried the Craftsman 1903, a very nice brew on a warm day, and I ordered the famous Fathers Office burger. I soon realized this is a order at the bar type of operation, and by the time I left there were people on both sides of me ordering and they were even handing menus over my head to people behind me. Now I dont question the dozens of reviews that say the burger was two things, big and jucy. I dont know what they served me but mine was not neither big or jucy, I ordered it medium and it was dry and mostly tasteless. I asked for mustard, I like mustard instead of ketchup and they dont have it and no ketchup either.
So let me finish, and I hope my review does not get removed, but if a restaurant serves burgers and fries and they dont have mustard or ketchup that restaurant sucks!!
10-02-2011 19:45:49 |
More by VegasBill
vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4 | selection: 4 | food: 4 | $$$
Atmosphere- The place hosts an array of patrons from white hairs to young bloods. The decor is rich with wood. People are friendly. A nice bar to be in, and it gets more fun as the night wears-on.
Quality- Appropriate glassware is used to serve all beers. Draught lines seem to be clean. The barspace itself was well-kept, and overall this place exhibited good quality.
Service- The service was very good... I mean the waitstaff and bartenders were very good... but certain policies out of their control force me to give a lower Service rating... like not being able to order a burger without onions or bacon... yes, you are not allowed to request any alterations to the Fathers Office burger... lame... Other than that, the waitstaff and bartenders were quite knowledgeable about their product and quite prompt with service.
Selection- With 36 taps and a couple dozen bottles, none of which are macro-brews, the selection is impressive... despite its low quantity of beers to choose from.
Food- My steak tasted great, but the meat was a little tough
Overall- I would definitely return here!
07-31-2011 07:30:59 |
More by jgasparine
vibe: 4.5 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4 | selection: 4.5 | $$$
We walked in on a Tuesday night around 8:30 pm, and it was packed. The place features low lighting with classy and comfy interior. It's basically just a long room parallel with the long bar (all...those...taps!!), with indentions on either side, making for a kind of shallow "U" shape. And there's a large patio out front, with long wooden tables and bench-style seating. Music playing was Radiohead, which is always fine by me, and the service seemed knowledgable, friendly and quick, despite the fact that they were slammed when we got there.
Beer selection was incredible. Anyone that bitches about the selection is either a jaded beer-snob or someone who doesn't really like good beer. Served in appropriate glassware and (this is key) not too cold, there was really nothing not to like here. Sure, you could complain about the hipster/upscale sort of crowd, but anyone we bumped into and chatted with seemed cool enough. And you can't blame a bar for its clientele, can you? We were there for good beer, and we got it: Great Divide Ruffian, St. Bernardus Tripel, Avery Pilsner, Russian River Perdition, Pliny the Elder, AleSmith Anvil ESB.
The girl waiting the bar that night knew her beer. This was evidenced by two guys who walked in, asked her something like "what can you recommend that's going to blow our expectations about beer, what can you serve us that's going to shift the beer paradigm?" They were literally that specific and driven...probably new to good beer but obviously willing to learn. So I watched as she went to the taps and poured the dudes a Russian River Perdition and St. Bernardus Tripel. Like I said, not much to NOT like about this place...
12-23-2010 19:01:52 |
More by Metalmonk
vibe: 4 | quality: 4 | service: 4 | selection: 3 | food: 3 | $$$$
Visited on Saturday night, August 7th, 2010 at about 10:00pm.
F.O.2 has a very different vibe form the original F.O. - better-looking (LOVE the bathroom sink area!), darker, more intimate and less full of annoying people. In fact, less full in general. Despite it being prime time for beer drinking, my friend and I got a bar seat within a couple of minutes of arriving.
The waitstaff was uniformly friendly and moderately attentive.
The draft beer selection was well-chosen, though there was a tendency towards lighter beer styles (hefes, wheats, witbier, summer ales, etc...). Regardless, I was able to enjoy an Old Rasputin and put down a not-so-great Alalskan White.
The food? Expensive and overrated. The Office Burger has devolved from its origin as one of the great hamburgers into a bloody mess whose flavors, once distinct and savory and unique, are now a goopy melange of meat and some kind of leafy vegetable and bun. The original Office burger was great and virtually unequaled; this one wasn't even one of the best hamburgers I've had this year.
So... if I had to pick a Father's Office in which to have a beer and some food, this one would win hands down over the pretentious, unbearable original location. That having been said, I would rather go to Lucky Devil's, Blue Palms, Tony's Darts Away, Third Stop, Verdugo, Lucky Baldwin's or The Daily Pint. Heck, I'd probably choose a Gordon Biersch over F.O. It's not a bad place, but the hype train left the station long ago and is running at high speed on the F.O. establishments.
God help us if they ever jump on the food truck bandwagon...
08-11-2010 21:16:21 |
More by charlzm
vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4.5 | selection: 4.5 | food: 4 | $$$$
We ended up here after trying to go to the original Father's Office in Santa Monica which was absolutely packed and it was obvious we weren't getting a table any time soon.
Located in Culver City it has a modern atmosphere and everything is new. A bunch of tables located in a patio outside. This place must be 5 times bigger than the original location and is therefore much easier to get a table. They still don't help the patrons get tables so you have to hover over tables and then grab one as soon as people leave. This is a minor pain in the ass.
The selection is excellent. Lots of American craft and quite a few Belgians on-tap. Decent bottle list as well. Plenty of stuff on the tap list to get any beer geek excited. I had a Pliny the Elder and a Stone 13th anniversary. Prices are rather steep.
Food was pretty good. I had a very good burger and the sweet potato fries were excellent.
07-26-2009 17:52:40 |
More by willjschmidt
vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4 | selection: 4.5 | food: 4 | $$
I went here a few weeks ago and have been meaning to review it since.
I went on a Saturday night with my fiancée (who graciously agreed to go - she is not into craft beer at all nor does she understand my infatuation with it). It was busy and took a while to find a place to sit which, whatever, it was better than a crowded "club". There was, however, a sort of "hip" atmosphere which led me to believe some of the people present were not there for the beer (mind you I'm a 25 year old who a year ago probably would have been one of the beer posers there). Overall though, it was lively and fast paced.
I have not been to the original FO in Santa Monica, which I will be visiting next week, but I can say FO2 is very nicely done and the presentation is excellent. Seeing all those amazing taps as I walked in gave me goosebumps.
The service was actually quite good for how busy it was - the bar tender we dealt was very informative and was quick to give suggestions to my fiancée about what beers they had that were "comparable" to ones she may drink elsewhere.
The selection was great. I had a Green Flash Imperial IPA, Pliny the Elder, and Black Butte XXI to finish up the night. Oh so good...I can't wait to go back!
While there I ordered a burger and fries. People complain about the "as is" rule but I thought the burger was pretty damn tasty how it came, though I do wish they had ketchup for my fries...god I love my ketchup!
At the end of the night it was not overly expensive but not overly cheap. However, I gave it the "reasonable" value for the fact the beers I was ordering were twice the ABV as say a bud light which would have been damn near the same price the beers I ordered were at.
Consensus - Would definitely go back again.
09-05-2009 23:42:36 |
More by SpdKilz
vibe: 3.5 | quality: 5 | service: 3 | selection: 3.5 | food: 5 | $$$
The "new" F.O. (check out my review of the original if you want some back story) is both better and worse than the orignial.
There's a replica of the neon sign of the original and the same wood paneled "feel" but the two places are very different
The good: 72 taps.
The bad: 36 beers (mirrored selections for each side of the bar)
The good: 3 times as big as the original with a super long bar with comfy stools.
the bad: As crowded as the old one and people hovering if you look finished. (No, I don't care if you are waiting on food and I'm done eating. I'm ordering more beers, get the eff away from my table.)
The crowd? There's a pretty high L.A. douchebag factor. You know, the entitlement thing which leads me to:
EVERYBODY GET OVER THE NO SUBSTITUTIONS! If you want your food cooked to your specifications instead of the chef's, may I suggest the Sizzler or Burger King? When I see a wannabe actor/model pitch a fit 'cause they won't take cheese off the burger or "Hold the onions" (Never a please, just demanded) I want to beat the crap out of them for the benefit of the staff who must enforce the chef's rules. Just eat what Sang makes. It's really freakin' good. He's a four-star chef and he's great at what he does. Get over yourselves. You know less about food than him, deal! Try something off the specials too 'cause that's what's in season at the moment and occasionally life-changing taste experiences.
On the flip side of the L.A. douchebag factor there's the female crowd. Lots of pretty model looking girls with fashion that barely stays above the line of what I would call porn star or stripperwear. But dressing in your finest to visit a beer bar is wrong on so many levels.
So F.O. 2 manages to encompass everything I love about the original but unfortunately tosses in a lot of what I don't miss about living in L.A.
06-19-2009 15:32:58 |
More by czechsaaz
vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4.5 | selection: 4.5 | food: 5 | $$$$
I've always liked the original Father's Office but it had 3 things that always kept me from loving it: the crowd - Westside yuppie types, the hassle - having to fight for a table / waiting to get in & distance - I live in Los Feliz. This improved greatly for me in all 3 categories.
It's roughly 3 times the size of the SM location with one long room almost entirely open to the outside. There's an outdoor patio that increases the size even more. The bar runs along the length of the room with the taps behind it. There are 72 taps in total BUT each is duplicated, so actually there are only 36 draught beers available. The beer selection, while quite good, is a bit more pedestrian than the other one. Nothing really stands out as something you couldn't find elsewhere. That said, there's plenty there to enjoy.
The food is exceptional. The sweet potato fries with bleu cheese are unbelievable. Of course, they are known for their hamburger and that will not disappoint. Love it. It's worth looking into some of their other dishes as well, as everything I've tried has been extremely tasty. I kinda went with what I know, so I didn't ask for any pairings; but I guess each dish has a corresponding beer to go with it.
Unlike the previous location, this one has a full liquor license. With that they have an impressive selection of spirits much in the way they pick particular beers. I saw someone order a a drink that came with a dropper full of liquid - a bit pretentious, yes. With all the good beers though, I didn't feel any need to go into the liquor section.
Again, you pay for what you get. A tulip of Delirium Tremens is $8. The food isn't cheap either.
The location is dangerously close to my office, so I'm hoping they will remain open only a few days for lunch so I don't become a poor man.
EDIT 1/24/09: the selection has increased tremendously: Deschutes Abyss and NB La Folie. SO good. The service has improved too. You will never get a bad pour here.
04-29-2008 23:53:11 |
More by sloejams
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