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Taps: 40 / Bottles: 30
Cask: N / Beer-to-Go: N
$$$ - a bit pricey
[ Bar, Eatery ]
3229 Helms Ave
phone: (310) 736-2224
(Place added by: drewbage on 04-25-2008)
Ratings & Reviews
| Reviews: 26 | Show All Ratings:
vibe: 2.5 | quality: 3 | service: 4.5 | selection: 4.5 | $$$
The design's very modern, angular and such. Not bad, but I kind of like the semi run down shack, hole in the wall feel.
The service was great, didn't have to wait, didn't have to force my way to the bar. Staff is well versed and had some good suggestions even when I knew what I was looking for.
Quite a few taps of high quality stuff. Problem is it was pretty picey, but that might just be LA. $8 was the cheapest, if I remember correctly. I'm used to paying $7.50 for the best Belgian on tap.
If it were closer or a bit more homey I might find myself at the Office more often.
12-10-2009 02:43:52 |
More by pants678
vibe: 4.5 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4.5 | selection: 4 | food: 4.5 | $$$
I like this place a lot... It doesn't blow me away, but it's far past average. I've been here a few times since it's opened, driving past it on my way home from work. They've got a good selection of maybe 25 tap brews and about as many bottles. Every week or two they have 3-5 new ones that'll replace some of the older seasonals.
The food is good, but expensive. The highlight at FO is, of course, the Office Burger. But, I usually just get a side of the fries (tastier than normal fries) to go with the two beers that I'll get.
The service is prompt. But, I always sit at the bar, which is where all ordering is done, so that'd make sense. The bartenders are always friendly, but I feel their explanations of the beers are somewhat generic, making me question whether or not they actually care about what they're talking about, or simply reciting the same descriptions over and over.
The decor does a great job of mixing a sense of modernity with the classic wood furnishings of a comfortable, relaxing bar.
Overall, this place is very good, and ranks as my number two place for beer in Los Angeles. My # 1 is Blue Palms Brewhouse.
10-23-2009 04:59:06 |
More by AHebel
vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4 | selection: 4.5 | food: 4 | $$
I went here a few weeks ago and have been meaning to review it since.
I went on a Saturday night with my fiancée (who graciously agreed to go - she is not into craft beer at all nor does she understand my infatuation with it). It was busy and took a while to find a place to sit which, whatever, it was better than a crowded "club". There was, however, a sort of "hip" atmosphere which led me to believe some of the people present were not there for the beer (mind you I'm a 25 year old who a year ago probably would have been one of the beer posers there). Overall though, it was lively and fast paced.
I have not been to the original FO in Santa Monica, which I will be visiting next week, but I can say FO2 is very nicely done and the presentation is excellent. Seeing all those amazing taps as I walked in gave me goosebumps.
The service was actually quite good for how busy it was - the bar tender we dealt was very informative and was quick to give suggestions to my fiancée about what beers they had that were "comparable" to ones she may drink elsewhere.
The selection was great. I had a Green Flash Imperial IPA, Pliny the Elder, and Black Butte XXI to finish up the night. Oh so good...I can't wait to go back!
While there I ordered a burger and fries. People complain about the "as is" rule but I thought the burger was pretty damn tasty how it came, though I do wish they had ketchup for my fries...god I love my ketchup!
At the end of the night it was not overly expensive but not overly cheap. However, I gave it the "reasonable" value for the fact the beers I was ordering were twice the ABV as say a bud light which would have been damn near the same price the beers I ordered were at.
Consensus - Would definitely go back again.
09-05-2009 23:42:36 |
More by SpdKilz
vibe: 4 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4.5 | selection: 4.5 | food: 4 | $$$$
We ended up here after trying to go to the original Father's Office in Santa Monica which was absolutely packed and it was obvious we weren't getting a table any time soon.
Located in Culver City it has a modern atmosphere and everything is new. A bunch of tables located in a patio outside. This place must be 5 times bigger than the original location and is therefore much easier to get a table. They still don't help the patrons get tables so you have to hover over tables and then grab one as soon as people leave. This is a minor pain in the ass.
The selection is excellent. Lots of American craft and quite a few Belgians on-tap. Decent bottle list as well. Plenty of stuff on the tap list to get any beer geek excited. I had a Pliny the Elder and a Stone 13th anniversary. Prices are rather steep.
Food was pretty good. I had a very good burger and the sweet potato fries were excellent.
07-26-2009 17:52:40 |
More by willjschmidt
vibe: 3.5 | quality: 5 | service: 3 | selection: 3.5 | food: 5 | $$$
The "new" F.O. (check out my review of the original if you want some back story) is both better and worse than the orignial.
There's a replica of the neon sign of the original and the same wood paneled "feel" but the two places are very different
The good: 72 taps.
The bad: 36 beers (mirrored selections for each side of the bar)
The good: 3 times as big as the original with a super long bar with comfy stools.
the bad: As crowded as the old one and people hovering if you look finished. (No, I don't care if you are waiting on food and I'm done eating. I'm ordering more beers, get the eff away from my table.)
The crowd? There's a pretty high L.A. douchebag factor. You know, the entitlement thing which leads me to:
EVERYBODY GET OVER THE NO SUBSTITUTIONS! If you want your food cooked to your specifications instead of the chef's, may I suggest the Sizzler or Burger King? When I see a wannabe actor/model pitch a fit 'cause they won't take cheese off the burger or "Hold the onions" (Never a please, just demanded) I want to beat the crap out of them for the benefit of the staff who must enforce the chef's rules. Just eat what Sang makes. It's really freakin' good. He's a four-star chef and he's great at what he does. Get over yourselves. You know less about food than him, deal! Try something off the specials too 'cause that's what's in season at the moment and occasionally life-changing taste experiences.
On the flip side of the L.A. douchebag factor there's the female crowd. Lots of pretty model looking girls with fashion that barely stays above the line of what I would call porn star or stripperwear. But dressing in your finest to visit a beer bar is wrong on so many levels.
So F.O. 2 manages to encompass everything I love about the original but unfortunately tosses in a lot of what I don't miss about living in L.A.
06-19-2009 15:32:58 |
More by czechsaaz
vibe: 3.5 | quality: 4.5 | service: 3 | selection: 4 | food: 4.5 | $$$
Finally went here to track down Pliny the Younger. I'd been waiting for the excuse to check this place out.
The atmosphere is both good and bad. The people there seemed pretty nice, and folks were in a good mood. However, since you can't order food without a table, and you aren't seated by anyone, there are tons of people floating around trying to hawk tables. It gets pretty annoying when if someone even looks like they might consider leaving that like 10 people try to hone in. It was hopping for a Tuesday night.
The quality is pretty good. Most of the beers are pretty upscale, and I got my Pliny's (both elder and younger) and a Hennepin (one of my favorites). They had several other real high quality beers hanging out there.
The service is also hard to rate. I got my beers on time, professionally poured, and with a smile. On the other hand, I hate having to order all my food from the bar, especially when there are a ton of people trying to get drinks. They have like 10 items on the menu, and don't make substitutions (obnoxious) so I'm pretty sure the dudes who bring you the food could handle the ordering. Hell, you could do it by number to prevent any language gaps or whatever. So I'm splitting the difference and calling it "average". The service I got was fine, but there was no reason they couldn't make the whole experience a little less hectic.
Selection - For beer? Pretty good. For food? Terrible. Once again, very, very limited menu. No substitutions. No ketchup either (incredibly obnoxious, it's my burger, let me decide how to eat it). Not a huge selection, but what they have is what you want.
Food - The burger is excellent. It just is. As are the sweet potato fries. They do like 5 things, but they seem to do them well.
It's priced ok. It's an LA "gastropub" so you know what you're getting yourself into.
Overall, this place is pretty decent. If you just want to sit at the bar and drink some top quality beers, you are in business. If you want to sit at a table, good luck hunting. If you want to order food, get your elbows out and be prepared. If you don't want gruyere on your burger? Go to hell. (I happen to love gruyere).
It's totally obnoxious for no reason, but, at least the beers are good. And the vibe is actually pretty mellow, despite all the minor irritations.
02-13-2009 02:59:48 |
More by callmescraps
vibe: 4.5 | quality: 4.5 | service: 4.5 | selection: 4 | food: 3.5 | $$
Selection was pretty good - some hammers include Rochefort 10 and 8, Gouden Carolus Tripel, The Abyss, Ten Fidy, and Ommegang Hennepin Saison. Would have liked to see more Belgian style ales, but that's just me. Atmosphere is awesome, with big wooden tables, friendly servers, and knowledgeable. Service was quick and friendly (4-5 pm is a good time to be there). The food selection was small - I didn't get to try the burger, that probably would have kicked the food score up a bit, did have an AWESOME cheese plate, that goes really well with lots of the beers there. Plus, there's this lady that sells grass-fed hotdogs out front, which are bomb-diggity. OK, the only reason I know that phrase is because of Sifl and Olly, so lay off. This place is what it claims to be - an upscale beer pub. Good stuff! Don't miss it if you're in the area, or within a 100 mile radius.
01-25-2009 22:14:09 |
More by raoulduke37
vibe: 3 | quality: 4 | service: 1.5 | selection: 4.5 | food: 2 | $$$
Honestly great beer, but I can't get over the one word I would use to describe the place "PRETENTIOUS".
That said, there are some very specific reasons the place wasn't for me, so don't take the review at face value. If what bothers me, doesn't bother you, enjoy! Overall it's a decent place, but not great.
Atmosphere-Great decor, loved the light bulbs hanging over the bar and the wood paneling. The bathroom with shared sink makes sense. The downside was the sign that greats you as you walk up, form line over here with the stanchions already set up. Maybe I just need to get over my aversion to the "club" vibe. It was a rare cloudy day in LA and the patio seating was full, good sign.
Quality-When I say good quality, I am referring to the beer which was served from clean taps in clean glasses with a proper pour.
Service-Here I must qualify the poor rating as the rating does not reflect the staff, which provided excellent service. The poor rating is the result of the management's policies of no substitutions, and the fact that I was unable to mix beers. You see, my wife, who I am steadily converting to beer, enjoys a snakebite every now and then and was told "We don't do that." when she tried to order one. While many of you diehards might fully support that sentiment, I am the customer and as long as I'm willing to pay I think it constitutes bad service not to try to comply with the request. Beyond just my snobby customer point, I enjoy drinking beer and I want to share that experience with as many people as possible and if that means I compromise in my attempts to convert someone I don't need attitude stifling my efforts to do so.
Selection-Food selection was non-existent; however the beer selection was great. Not overwhelming with great options representing the spectrum of quality beers. My rating for the selection is based on the beer, which is really the point of my visiting Father's Office 2.
Food-The best way to describe the food would be to say it's pretty with few options! This is one of those pretty food places. That said if that is what you are into this place is great because it was top notch quality with regard to ingredients.
Value-I was conflicted here because beer prices did appear to be on the high side, 15-20% higher than locations of equal quality nearby. As mentioned with regard to the food, the ingredients were top quality so appearances are you get the value with the food.
11-02-2008 17:22:04 |
More by marzen
vibe: 3 | quality: 4 | service: 3 | selection: 4 | $$$
I'm kind of over the Father's Office. The crowd of people making the scene waiting behind the velvet rope to get in, the Darwinian fight for a table or even a place to stand combined with waiting in line behind some chick getting a tutorial from the barman as to which high end beer she might try that would most resemble her beloved Corona all make FO2 kind of a drag. With rapidly expanding beer scene options in LA (Verdugo, 3rd Stop, Lucky Devils) I figure why bother. The selection at FO2 is outstanding and the fact that it is only one of two places in LA that you might actually get to try a Pliny make it relevant, but if you really want to enjoy a beer, I mean sit down at an actual seat and order without the anxiety of the other patrons breathing down your neck for their turn up to bat, you may want to consider a place with a little less hype.
07-30-2008 21:32:07 |
More by HopHeadLouie
vibe: 4.5 | quality: 5 | service: 5 | selection: 5 | food: 4.5 | $$
i had the pleasure of visiting fathers office 2 while visiting california from michigan. although michigan has a lot of craft breweries, we lack establishments like this. for me the experience was extraordinary, never had i seen so many wonderful and delicious beers in one place. i've also been reading other reviews and i'd like to add that their pricing is right on, and for all you cheap asses complaing about paying top dollar for top shelf beer, let me tell you to stop your quibaling, you big baby.
as a bussiness owner i can appreciate client selection, maybe it was too much because your not the customer they want, get over it.
loved the esteics, loved the outdoor patio, and i especially loved my roucfort trapist 8 man what a beer mmm, i loved every minute of it.
food was a bit pricy but it was very tasty, and very well balanced in both flavor and texture.
great job you guys keep it up i'll be back, you can count on that.
07-12-2008 13:00:57 |
More by HowellVillage
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