Evil Twin / Stillwater / Stone - "The Perfect Crime" - Stone Brewing Co.

brentk56

North Carolina

3.54/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours pitch black with a moderate head that leaves a lot of stringy lacing behind

Smell: Vaguely woodsy and cakey; really odd for what is in the beer

Taste: The malt flavor is very unusual here - the closest I can get is that it tastes a bit like chocolate mole sauce, with vague hints of spice, chocolate and charred chipotle peppers; rather chalky and woodsy, after the swallow, with just a bit of smoke lingering into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: I seem to like this beer better than others who have reviewed it, though it lacks flavor development; perhaps it being so tough to figure out is why they named it "The Perfect Crime"

Serving type: bottle

03-08-2013 00:12:04 | More by brentk56

UCLABrewN84

California

3.2/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours an almost opaque super dark brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Thick rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, herbs, adhesive bandages, and some smoked wood aromas. Taste is slightly sour with some dark roasted malt, char, and smoke flavors. There is a medium amount of roasty bitterness and a tart twang with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty average beer with some odd aromas and flavors that don't meld together very well. Unfortunately, this will go down as another miss in the Stone collaboration series in my book.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2012 01:42:09 | More by UCLABrewN84

BEERchitect

Kentucky

3.53/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

When subscribing to saisons, the blueprint reads with dry grainy sweetness, pepper, fruit and high effervescence. Any complement of dark grain should accent the dryness with an almost-roast character. But boy-howdy- that notion is rammed home in the perfect crime.

With nearly porter-like proportions, the ale pours a dark, bark-brown color with a yeasty haze that refutes light. Where its body appears dense, the billow of foam and the streams of bubbles suggest lightness. Capped by a soft sandy head, the froth is spritzy and airy and reduces quickly but regenerates with a simple swirl of the glass. Light speckled lace decorates the glass in the wake.

Aromas are all about wood as the balance of saisons are ignored and the scent of char and perfume are preferred. Spicy coriander, paradise seed, star anise and a plethora of exotic botanicals fuse with soft char for a fragrant yet powerful "holiday" scent.

The taste of campfire char, burnt embers, and freshly sawn oak give bold first impressions, and then the spicy taste of pepper, burnt toast, bitter orange peel, white pepper, and coriander are sharp and deliver a pang of sharpness to the palate. Spices turn smoky and medicine-like in finish, and close with a touch of ash.

Incredibly dry, roasty, and tannin, there's absolutely no sweetness to the beer. It's bone dry texture makes the flavors evaporate on the palate and reveals a lot of harsh wood, char, ash, and smoke notes that deserve any semblance of balance. The beer finishes before it begins with only a memory of taste even in its early palate. Spicy, warm, and dry throughout, the beer oddly compelling in mouthfeel but seems harsh nevertheless.

I rather appreciate the dry malt flavor and body, but the roasted character is overbearing and dictates the balance in rather bullying fashion. There's very little resemblance of saison as the beer would be much more identifiable with an off-balanced robust porter instead.

Serving type: bottle

12-29-2012 19:10:13 | More by BEERchitect

oberon

North Carolina

3.24/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Poured into a tulip glass jet black with a nice looking large fluffy tannish colored head that stuck like glue leaving multiple globs of lace as it settled slowly.Aromas were dry and very earthy...almost dirty,light spiced phenols and mild smoke rounded out the nose.The palate was dry as well with earthy notes and phenols mainly,the earthiness was to big for my lining,the smoke comes into play more in the aftertaste.Not overly impressed with this offering sad to say.

Serving type: bottle

01-18-2013 20:50:37 | More by oberon

TMoney2591

Illinois

3.33/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Served in a Lagunitas mason jar.

Ah, the perfect crime. I remember it well... ...Wait! No, forget I said anything! Anyway, this stuff pours a deep garnet-brown topped by a finger of dusty tan foam. The nose comprises light hickory smoke, light soy sauce, mild Belgian yeast, light ruby red grapefruit peeking out from the background, and a few pinches of black pepper. The taste brings in more of the same, with the now-even-lighter smoke duking it out with the yeasty spices and the rindy grapefruit, culminating in a slightly muddled and definitely noisy flavor-din. It almost works, but ultimately falls quite short. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a fluid feel. Overall, though smoked beers are usually my bag, this one just didn't do it for me. The flavors never meshed well at all, and the smoke seems almost like an afterthought in the "Oops, this black saison isn't quite there, so let's add some smoke to try to cover things up" kind of way.

Serving type: bottle

01-19-2013 08:31:24 | More by TMoney2591

metter98

New York

3.85/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at Mugs Alehouse, Brooklyn, NY

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a finger high off white head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a coating of bubbles down the sides of the glass.
S: There are aromas of Belgian yeast and dark roasted malts in the nose. Some notes of smoke become evident as the beer warms up.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has a little less flavors of roasted malts but added flavors of smoke. There are also some hints of oak.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. The finish is dry and a little chalky.
O: This is a nice black saison that is easy to drink and has some nice roasted flavors; the smoke definitely makes this beer unique. It is very flavorful given its light body.

Serving type: on-tap

12-02-2012 12:44:59 | More by metter98

Knapp85

Pennsylvania

3.23/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This poured out as a deep brown color with a very minimal head on top. The retention and lacing were gone before I took a first sip. The smell of the beer has some light fruity aromas with a touch of roasted malt and bread. The taste was yeasty, more bread a touch of roasted malt and some fresh grapes in the mix. The finish had a decent bitterness to it. The mouthfeel was a little on the thin side, not overly exciting. Overall this beer was nice too try but a little bit of a disappointment in my opinion. I feel it just lacks some qualities that this style of beer should have. Perhaps it would be better from a bottle.

Serving type: on-tap

11-24-2012 04:43:12 | More by Knapp85

Halcyondays

California

3.58/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle,

A: Pours an ultra deep red to black, opaque, with a medium slightly off-white head. Very solid head retention, some sticky lace.

S: Smoke, dark malt, with a hint of soy sauce.

T: Dark chocolate and plum upfront, but then really gets into the saison aspect. While there's an undercurrent of smoke throughout, the back end of this beer is all saison. Tons of peppery spice, leather, almost a note of bee pollen. It's lacking that delicious factor, but it is quite an interesting, complex beer.

M: Drying finish, medium-bodied overall. Chalky, peppery long aftertaste with some finishing hops.

O: A strange beer to say the least, really a combo of an ABA and a saison with a splash of rauchbier thrown in there. Only $2.99 a bottle, so this is a fun beer to expand your palate, but really at the end of the day, it's nothing mind-blowing, enjoyable though.

Serving type: bottle

11-17-2012 02:35:48 | More by Halcyondays

WVbeergeek

Ohio

3.55/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled on 10/26/12, a trifecta of great brewers came together with one being pretty much the master of the American Saison right now...all three have the collaborative fortitude to do a black beer together considering they all make some of the best dark beers available in craft brewing today. This one pours with a black body jet black with a light fine bubbled creamy tan head, leaves fine lacing down the sides of my tulip shaped chalice. Dry hopping comes thru in terms of earthy pine and mild citrus peels with a dark roasted malts surrounding the hop accents, spicy Belgian yeast gives why to alcoholic phenols and black peppercorns. A pleasant caramel drizzled toast brings out a nuttiness in there as well, all in all chalk full of malt and hops. Flavors collide with the bittering hops here, dark roasted malt bitterness potentiates the pine earthy resinous hops riding the waves of carbonation in my first few sips...as the palate adjusts it's still satisfies with a slightly warming effect of the booze. The dry hopping probably makes and breaks this beer, the strong lingering bitterness really Americanizes this black saison into the hybrid known as the "Perfect Crime" The mouthfeel also welcomes the light smoked meat aspect in the back of the nares, not really dominant against the big hops and dark malts utilized but well played nonetheless. Dry hints of cherry tartness and other vine ripened fruit additions start to explode as the beer warms a bit, complex ale in 12 ounces, I'm guessing this beer keeps getting better considering it's 4/25/13.

Serving type: bottle

04-25-2013 18:12:40 | More by WVbeergeek

RblWthACoz

Pennsylvania

3.1/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This. Is gross. Really. What the hell is this? When I first took a sniff of this, I wondered what precisely it was reminding me of. I can't pinpont it, but it's somewhere in the ballpark of turpentine. The beer tastes saison-esqe. I can certainly grab the basic elements of what I should be tasting. But the smoked tones with this odd yeast thing going on just do not work at all. As it warms a bit, it gets more tolerable. But there is just something here that is lacking. And that's putting it nicely. For the price, this beer should be at least good. Considering the three breweries that are involved, it should really be well above average.

Serving type: bottle

11-29-2012 03:10:52 | More by RblWthACoz

smcolw

Massachusetts

3.5/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Impressive lumpy beige head that leaves plenty of chunky lace on the glass. The liquid is deep brown where light passes through the center.

Mildly earthy aromas. The rest of the smell reminds me of a Brown Ale. Light white-pepper hop at the end. Some Saison aroma after these initial smells settle.

First impression is the thinness of the body. Nearly no flavor while the beer is on the tongue. Everything comes from the swallow, which is complex combination of pepper, astringent darker malt and a bit of alcohol. Relatively short aftertaste. High carbonation level.

Serving type: bottle

12-16-2012 19:34:03 | More by smcolw

rhoadsrage

Illinois

4.33/5  rDev +22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a tulip glass)
A- This beer pours a jet black opaque body with a thin light tan film of head that is supported by bubbles that race out of the abyss and stick to the bottom of the head.

S- The roasted black malt is very mellow with a cold smoke note in the finish. There is a nice saison yeast ester aroma that turns a bit to new sneaker aroma as it opens, but the aroma always stays light.

T- The nice saison yeast character takes on some dry bubble gum qualities followed by a smooth black malt mellow finish. There is a club soda and cold smoke note to the after taste. As the beer opens some lemon tartness grows quite a bit in the finish. It could be hops but not really distinct, but very pleasant.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with no alcohol heat

O- This has all the potential for a train wreck but I would say it truly is the perfect storm. All the flavors come through but they are in just the right balance that it doesn’t get ugly. Each sip made me want another sip just out of pure wonderment. The beer is light and bright even though it has some black malt and smoke flavors. Is this the holotype of a Black Saison?

Serving type: bottle

01-09-2013 17:27:25 | More by rhoadsrage

Jason

Massachusetts

3.15/5  rDev -11%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz brown bottle with a freshness date.

LOOK: Complete darkness, tight tiny bubble lacing, good stickage

SMELL: Chalky, gummy, carob, dried grass, subtle smoke, dried dark fruit, mild esters, slightly medicinal, spicy

TASTE: Smooth, roasty, bity yeast character, a little creamy, molasses taffy, medicinal herbs, balanced hoppiness, vague smoke, hint of black berries, cocoa nibs, mildly warming alcohol

Was hoping for a bit more crispness or snap, smoke is pretty hard to find and so is the "Saison" traits ... somewhat Belgian-y and that is about it. Missing the point of this beer, at the bottom of all of the Stone collab brews. Nothing bad, just does nothing for me.

Serving type: bottle

12-14-2012 01:40:29 | More by Jason

Billolick

New York

3.58/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle, purchased at DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY

Pours near black, light mocha head stays and leaves some low sheeting and decent looking fine lacing.

Nose is full of dark malts, lite smoke, and some minty spice.

More dark malt, more smoke and I get some subtle pepper, mint, and then hoppy dryness to finish things out. Unusual, off beat, a style bender. Decent fall/winter type of brew. Not my favorite, but worth a try.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2012 02:14:02 | More by Billolick

jlindros

Massachusetts

3.51/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Pours a lighter fizzy but brownish colored head covering, nice lacing though, super dark cola brown color faintest hint of mahogany light sneaking through.

Nose light smoked malt, like bbq smoke but nothing huge in that department, a light grainy straw malt, hint of earthy saison, and a bit of caramel and darker malt. Also a faint leafy hop.

Taste starts with a light farmhouse but yeasty kinda flavor, with grainy hay malts. Then a blend of a weird citrus almost lime lemon like with a gale or other leafy spice, and some light bitter roasty malt and darker caramel malt. Hops bring a faint mint and leafy vegetal thing with some bitterness. Smoke is light and more like liquid smoke than actual smoked malts, almost fake tasting, it's kinda weird. Finish is more bitter, sticky malt residue, light smoke, light saison and leafy herbal spices lingering.

Mouth is med bodied, plenty of carb.

Overall didn't really do it for me, too many things going on that just don't play well.

Serving type: bottle

04-03-2013 01:50:43 | More by jlindros

Zorro

California

3.48/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Clear deeply brown colored ale with a small black colored head

Smells like smoked flowers. Smoke and coriander with a flowery hop aroma. Little bit of honeysuckle in the scent. Flowers are a bit like perfume.

Starts out neutral sweet and smoky. Hint of a sourness in this. Moderate bitterness. Tastes like smoked flowers.

Mouthfeel is good.

Overall it is tasty but not outstanding. A Strange one pretty must Irish Dry Stout mixed with Saison. Not one of the better beer combination.

Serving type: bottle

12-11-2012 02:51:59 | More by Zorro

corby112

Pennsylvania

2.3/5  rDev -35%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a dark chestnut brown color that appears pitch black and opaque in the glass with a two finger light beige head that slowly settles into a thick, lasting cap. Streaks of soapy left behind.

Slightly smokey, roasted dark malt aroma with some peppery spice and funky Saison yeast notes. Hints of charcoal/campfire, smoked meat and ash along with dark chocolate, robust coffee and farmhouse funk. As it warms, the smoke gets a bit stronger, overpowering the Saison characteristics. There's also some earthy, piney hops lingering underneath that comes more to the forefront as the beer comes to room temperature.

Medium bodied with a really strange combination of smoked malt, earthy hops, peppery spice and funky yeast which results in an unpleasant, metallic/herbal/medicinal flavor that's hard to drink. Starts off with liquid smoke, burnt malt and charred malts but is quickly overtaken by resinous, piney hops. These two flavors really don't work well together and when you add the Saison/farmhouse elements, this turns into a mess of a beer. Very harsh and tough to choke down. I appreciate their experimentation but I hate the way this beer tastes.

Serving type: bottle

11-15-2012 10:06:35 | More by corby112

Rifugium

Pennsylvania

1.85/5  rDev -47.7%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

First had: firkin at Capone's, Norristown, PA

Honestly, I would not have thought this was a saison if I didn't look it up. I can identify styles with the best of them, but at the time, I couldn't really tell what this one was, and kind of just passed it off as a weak porter.

Dark brown pour, opaque, or at least so it seemed in the light of the bar, a few stray bubbles on top, but otherwise no head. This beer had been sitting for a while, because it wasn't one degree below room temperature. I know that's the point of a cask, but it wasn't working in this case. I tried and tried to get an aroma from this, to the point of nearly dipping my schnoz in the beer, but it just wasn't happening. Nothing! I've had beers with bad aromas, weak aromas, muted aromas, but I really got zero in the nose with this. Taste-wise, I believe I literally said "bleh" when I sipped it. Bland dark malts, soy sauce, burnt cardboard, with a blast of earthy hops in the finish. And all this at puke warm temperature with little to no carbonation...it just didn't work. Light-medium body, and really just unpalatable. Three good breweries making one bad beer. I guess the "perfect crime" was putting this on the market.

Serving type: cask

11-29-2012 05:57:40 | More by Rifugium

DoubleJ

California

3.73/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A black saison? Such is the project behind this Stone collaboration. On to the beer:

Obsidian colored with an inch of head sitting on top. The retention is good and so is the lace associated. Its nose is soft and somewhat dry. Vague Belgian yeast seems to be the one in play. Notes of pear, lemon, saison spices, and subtle smoke follow to complete the nose.

Roasted malt hits first upon tasting. Quickly, the roasted note drops away and gives way to the saison. Notes of pear and spice make much of the flavor, and a somewhat astringent smokiness arrives late and remains into the aftertaste. The body is medium full with a slight creaminess.

As is the case with many of the Stone collaborations, , this "black saison" was fun to try. Not my favorite, but it's workable.

Serving type: bottle

12-25-2012 18:44:43 | More by DoubleJ

kojevergas

California

2.35/5  rDev -33.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Not a big Stone fan, but I like Evil Twin and the price was right so I picked this one up. Most of these collaborations have been mundane; I don't know why I keep buying them. A Smoked Saison sounds pretty foul as well. But hey, every beer gets a chance. 12 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a one finger khaki-tan colour head of good cream and thickness, and pretty decent retention (~2 minutes). Colour is a solid nontransparent opaque black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Heavy rauchbier-esque smoke and bacon notes, with some acrid dark malts alongside cream. Not at all appealing. A mild strength aroma. I'm not looking forward to this.

T: Dark malt foundation with murky smoky lightly bacon-y notes on the climax. No real cream. Dreadfully simple. A bit too bitter. I get no brett notes or anything remotely saison-esque. Earthy but not fruity. Imbalanced and bland. Who knew such an experimental brew could be so non-committal? Drinks like a crappy rauchbier. Underwhelming.

Mf: Too dry and coarse in the late second and third acts. Unmotivated and unfocused. This is a mess. Smooth and wet up front, but also a bit sharp from overcarbonation. Thickness is okay. Presence on the palate is all over the place.

Dr: I'm all for experimentation, but they shouldn't have even brought this to the market. This is a mess of an effort and doesn't warrant purchase. Only the names of the breweries involved will sell this beer. If you want a nice brett-laden saison (even with hints of smoke, if for some reason that sounds like a good idea), look elsewhere. This reminds me of novice homebrewing.

D+

Serving type: bottle

11-17-2012 05:48:32 | More by kojevergas

mactrail

California

2.96/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Dark mahogany color in the Saxo tall tulip with a modest foam. Average carbonation. Very thin body but a decent sudsiness. I would call this a black Cascadian IPA, but then it is flushed with a whole lot of the Belgian dry yeastiness. A hint of apples and burnt oatmeal.

This stuff is quite sharp and bitter. Not hardly like a Saison, even stretching the style, but I'll rate it as such. Seems like the collaboration yields Stillwater's excess of the dry yeast flavors, along with Stone's prediliction for turning everything into an IPA, plus Evil Twin's murky silliness. Seems like a perfect crime to me.

Sourish aftertaste is even less appealing after all the harsh bitterness. And then it dries out from there and leaves a film on the teeth and the sensation of cardboard. From the 12 oz bottle bought at Grapevine Liquors in Denver.

Serving type: bottle

02-06-2013 04:46:48 | More by mactrail

Stinkypuss

Pennsylvania

4.21/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A collaborative effort from all the good folks at Stone/Stillwater/Evil Twin
After reviewing I realized this was my 1800th review, cheers!

LOOK: Pours a deep brown with a light off white foam that leaves good lace. Has good staying power, and was served in a chalice.

SMELL: Bread, toast, chocolate, grass and slightly funky Belgian yeast.

TASTE: Moderately tart in a Belgian fashion upfront giving way to notes of dry cocoa, coffee, herbs and hops. Mild peppery spiciness paired with a presence of molasses. Dry hopped flavor comes through well.

FEEL: Really nice, smooth and the carbonation is strong and slightly drying, right where it needs to be. Almost creamy, and spicy.

OVERALL: To hell with judging this beer to any one style, it's a conundrum. A very good one at that. But, for being a smoked Saison, the smoke is not very strong. It had more of a pleasant roasted malt flavor.

Serving type: bottle

01-08-2013 23:36:41 | More by Stinkypuss

OWSLEY069

Pennsylvania

3.43/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a deep amber to black in color with a tan head. In the aroma, a small tartness, earthy and a note of smoke. In the taste, small earthy tartness, with notes of smoke in the end. A small bite, and a medium to lighter bodied mouthfeel, with a lightly dry note of earthy tartness and smoke. More earthy tartness than smoke, a bit odd.

Serving type: bottle

11-23-2012 17:55:36 | More by OWSLEY069

avalon07

South Carolina

3.3/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a dark brown color and a cloudy texture. There was a small amount of off white, foamy head that quickly dissipated. Good lacing.

S: A slightly strange aroma of chocolate (not something you expect from a saison), malt, fruit, and the funkiness typical of the style.

T: Tasted of dark fruits, a little bit of malt, light hops, a hint of chocolate, and the aforementioned funkiness. There's something a bit out of whack here. The flavors don't seem to gel very well. Not bad, but not as good as others.

M: A decent amount of carbonation with a smooth, silky finish. Medium-bodied.

O: This isn't a bad beer, but it isn't as well-formed as other Stone collaborations. Not necessarily undrinkable, but not something I would buy twice.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2013 22:32:49 | More by avalon07

FosterJM

California

3.45/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1654th Review on BA
Bottle to Tulip
12oz

2012 Release
Purchased at Total Wine & More for $2.99

App- Well it is a black saison. So figured it would be very dark. Inky black and very dense in the glass with red edges. Still not sure how that works really. The head was a nice two finger, off white, almost khaki color. The cling was very amazing and thick.

Smell- Well I thought it was overly muddled. A bit too much going on. Taking into consideration a Roggenbier with a fuller rye smell, a hefe with some bubblehum and a saison with the pepper and malt. A bit bitter and floral as well. I dont get too much smoke. Do get a bit of meaty flavors behind this.

Taste- I thought it was better than average but not a great beer. It had a lot going on and got a bit muddled in the middle. Similar to the aromas the flavors were a bit off. Too many things competing with eachother. It was yeasty, doughy, dark fruits, smokey and meaty. Just didn't layer well.

Mouth- It was a pretty thick body actually. More like a liquid bread mixed with some candy. A bit sweet on the finish like a quad. Some plums and some juices. The carbonation was a bit bubbly and carried over to the finish.

Drink- Well I have reviewed all but two of the stone Collabs. Streak continues. Fairly tasty and a bit muddled but a unique take on a couple styles. Just not for me.

Serving type: bottle

12-11-2012 20:52:26 | More by FosterJM