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Stone 04.04.04 Vertical Epic Ale
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rAvg: 3.9
pDev: 13.33%
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Stone Brewing Co.
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Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Pale Ale
| 8.50%
ABV
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Limited (brewed once).
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This beer is retired; no longer brewed.
A new Vertical Epic will be released every year, with the goal being to collect them all and have a Vertical Epic tasting once the final Epic is released on 12/12/12. Each new Stone Vertical Epic Ale will be release one YEAR, one MONTH and one DAY apart. This time around we used some unmalted wheat, just the right touch of Kaffir Lime Leaf, and a really cool Belgian yeast. The result is a bit like a strong Biere de Garde / Saison-esque influenced beer coupled with some aromatic Bavarian Hefeweizen style phenolic banana esters, and a backnote hint of lime from the lime leaf.
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kaseydad
California
4.14
/5
rDev
+6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4
Had a few of these through the years...time to review today.
Pours a pretty clear amber/copper color with a nice sized off-white foamy head. Still carbonated nicely for being almost 10 years old. A few cloudys in the bottle where they shall stay. A touch of lacing.
The aroma consists of belgian yeast, banana, orange, apple and grape. Getting a large fruit forward whiff. Hefe style aroma.
The aroma is still very belgian yest forward. More subtle banana. Lime and slight lemon. Wheat. Good tangerine and orange flavors. A touch of bitterness on the swallow and yeasty finish.
The mouthfeel is well carbonated for the age. Proper cellaring folks!
Overall this is still holding up nicely. I was hoping for the best, but my expectations were exceeded. Sure it's not fresh, but I appreciate it for the longevity and changes that have occured. More fruit and belgian yeast are shining through. I tell ya...cellar these correctly and you have a treat on your hand. Albeit an older treat.
Serving type: bottle
05-09-2013 01:12:21 |
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sweemzander
Illinois
3.05
/5
rDev
-21.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
22oz. bottle poured into a taster glass. Thanks to Chris for sharing!
(A)- Pours a murky golden orange color. Minimal white bubbles.
(S)- Kind of a hodge podge of dry resin, orange citrus, and an ever so earthy-like hint of lime.
(T)- Rather sweet in comparison to how dry the aroma was. Lots of honey and a sugary, almost candy-like orange and lime.
(M)- A mellow carbonation level. Quite sweet with an interesting citrus flavor to it. A touch muddled though due to its age.
(O)- I think this one is showing its age too, though I did appreciate the kind of awkward orange and lime citrus this has taken on.
Serving type: bottle
03-12-2013 15:46:30 |
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MasterSki
Illinois
3.13
/5
rDev
-19.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3
Bottle I got from KAME a long time ago. Served in a tulip.
A - White foam settles to a thin collar, wisps, and minimal lace. Hazed, dark apricot body.
S - Shockingly, the Kaffir lime leaf has held up, even after nine years. It doesn't really mix well with the stale oxidation, marmalade, and caramel flavors though. Not offensive, but a tad strange.
T - The taste isn't quite as distince, with more nebulous sweetness. Again, it's largely caramel, fruity oxidation, and perhaps a touch of lime.
M - Medium body, with less carbonation than the previous two years. Lightly sticky texture and finish, and again no obvious alcohol.
D - Very weird. If you like lime then this might still be somewhat palatable, but it's certainly not something I could drink in large quantities. Still, better than the 03.03.03 in my book.
Serving type: bottle
03-06-2013 04:05:37 |
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Treebs
Illinois
2.5
/5
rDev
-35.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5
22 oz. bottle served in a CCB snifter.
A: Pours a hazy apricot color with a ton of yeasty floaters in the pour. Some light splotches of lace are left down the glass.
S: Flowery and herbal with some light fruity undertones. Some plum with stale, oaty malts.
T: Paper and light oxidation with some light caramel malts. Flowery notes with some mild glue and light lime. A little prune-like oxidation.
M: Medium to light bodied with a medium carbonation level. Not much remaining on the flavor.
O: Did not enjoy this one at all. The lime notes seemed out of placed and it made the overall taste take on an Elmers glue-like flavor profile.
Serving type: bottle
02-13-2013 02:14:25 |
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johnnnniee
New Hampshire
3.99
/5
rDev
+2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
I was fortunate to try this last night at an epic tasting held by my good friend Mike, thanks for the opportunity MrBarleywine!
Pours a slightly hazy medium golden color with a smallish off white head that dissipates fairly quickly. The aroma is sweet caramel and light sugar with a bit of cherry and sherry notes. Hint of lime and spicy yeast notes provide a nice contrast to the sweetness within. The flavor follows the aroma quite well. Sweet and sugary with caramel and sherry notes balanced by peppery spicy bready yeast flavors. Medium body with a moderate level of carbonation and a sweet spicy mouthfeel. This was a nice beer and over the years the flavors have melded quite nicely. The lime aroma and flavor are different, but work against the backdrop of the other flavors.
Serving type: bottle
01-27-2013 02:20:50 |
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charlzm
California
2.89
/5
rDev
-25.9%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75
Consumed on January 20th, 2013 at a private Vertical Epic tasting.
Beer pours a clear, light medium-gold. Slightly hazy, no head.
The aroma is nebulous esters and phenols; the only thing I could definitely pick out was lime.
Flavor was slightly sweet with notes of clove, pepper and lime. Very low to no bitterness.
Mouthfeel was flat and otherwise unremarkable.
Sadly, this one doesn't seem to have aged very well.
Serving type: bottle
01-21-2013 18:41:14 |
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Doppelbockulus
Florida
3.68
/5
rDev
-5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Poured into the Vertical Epic Glass.
First pour was careful so as not to disturb the yeast. It poured a very clear coppery gold with no retained head.
The smell was surprising, and included light minty and buttery qualities. Some swwetness is also present.
Very subdued peach is detected among the hop flavor. The taste is light with mild tannin.
The tannin is present on the feel, but other than that, it is clean and slightly warming.
Serving type: bottle
01-20-2013 18:46:13 |
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TKEbeerman
Florida
2.96
/5
rDev
-24.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
A. Poured into my VE glass this brew pours a golden yellow with a little murky yeast. One of our tasters had a crystal clear pour.
S. The aroma is plain and bready. Some oxidization, but less than 02 and 03.
T. The flavor tastes of bready tones with notes of hops that used to be dominate. Again, no belgiumy tones.
Mf. Mouthfeel is somewhat creamy, a little rough on the finish.
Overall not as an impressive choice for aging.
Serving type: bottle
01-19-2013 01:42:35 |
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yourefragile
District of Columbia
2.28
/5
rDev
-41.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5
22 oz bottle.
Pours a clear golden orange with a thin bubbly off white head. Nose is minty and medicinal, with some strawberry and green tea. Odd. Syrupy body with minimal carbonation. Very sweet, cloying flavor. Sort of like the juice from a can of pineapples or peaches. Watery, stale and sticky. Pass.
Serving type: bottle
01-13-2013 18:40:20 |
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Huhzubendah
District of Columbia
2.98
/5
rDev
-23.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3
Thanks to the Thorpes for sharing.
The beer is bright orange and hazy with a thin white head. The aroma offers mint, tea, citrus, malt, lime, kiwi. The flavor is a bit odd, showing signs of age. Well water, oranges, light toffee. Light in body with low carbonation. This was ok.
Serving type: bottle
01-12-2013 20:54:19 |
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portia99
Massachusetts
3.85
/5
rDev
-1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4
22oz bottle poured into a Vertical Epic glass.
A - Pours a clear amber tinted gold with fine floating particles throughout the body of liquid. Low white head fades quickly leaving behind faint traces of lacing on the glass.
S - Malty sweet, honey is quite prominant in the aroma, lite touches of lime, bit of earth, peppery and spicy, some earthy aromas and mild alcohol presence.
T - The kaffir lime comes thru well despite the age of the bottle, lots of honey as was found in the aroma, some pepper. Overall sweet and very honey dominant flavor.
M - A bit syrupy in feel, body is medium-full, carbonation is low-medium and tingly on the tongue, a bit of a spicy burn on the back of the throat on the swallow.
O - Super sweet and honey dominant. Lime holds up nicely and comes thru to compliment the honey. A bit unusual overall.
Serving type: bottle
12-30-2012 19:39:26 |
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peabody
Kentucky
3.25
/5
rDev
-16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5
Lots of bubbles in this slightly yellow amber liquid that adorns the glass with a few white bubbles and lacing around the rim.
Smell is grassy banana and yeast with a few spices and the alcohol burn.
Taste is kinda syrupy with a very slight hop bitterness but very little. Not much spice shows up anymore.
Mouthfeel is very sticky at first then the bitterness washes most of the syrup away.
Overall this is another FAILED attempt from Stone. This one is well over it's prime. Had it 4 years ago and it was a lot better. It has went downhill since.
Serving type: bottle
12-29-2012 17:41:58 |
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FosterJM
California
3.5
/5
rDev
-10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
1659th Review on BA
Bottle to VE Glass
22oz
Split with StarRaptor, Callmecoon & Smarcoly
App- A bit of an apple juice color with a bit of density behind it. A bit more golden than I wouldve thought. A small ring of bubbles was there and was gone quite quickly.
Smell- I didnt get any of the lime on this bottle. I got more of a malty, sweet a little bit of a saison note with some small peppery bits and then moved into a bit of sweet apple notes.
Taste- I thought it was a nice beer. Wasnt overly oxidized and didnt have the usual pop that a BSPA would have. The lime was gone and tasted more like a juice or a white wine to me. (Having 11-11-11 in white wine 2 after this. I still agree) The malts were much more pronounced and this had lost a lot of the nuance of the style.
Mouth- A bit of a syrupy medium body with a medium carbonation. The residual flavors are there with only a touch of the spicy and body of a saison. A little bit of sweetness and apple.
Drink- Probably my least favorite of the earlier bottles. I would say that it was 06-05-03-04. Was a lot of fun to do this tasting.
Serving type: bottle
12-17-2012 21:10:51 |
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dirtylou
Washington
3.73
/5
rDev
-4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
040404, consumed 121312
appearance: served in my lost abbey teku glass - hazy straw orange body
smell: herbal, lime, citrus, flowers
taste: the kaffir lime leaf is very evident - honey, grass, straw, clove, light belgian yeast. Held up fairly well - these ancient VE beers are seeming to surpass my quite low expectations
mouthfeel: light, herbal
overall: interesting stuff - the lime leaf phase is so 2004 though
Serving type: bottle
12-16-2012 00:09:57 |
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Kendo
New York
3.63
/5
rDev
-6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4
This bottle sat in my cellar - two different cellars, actually, as I moved in 2011 - until 12/11/12, when it moved into my fridge. Consumed on 12/12/12 - not a day sooner - as per the directions on the bottle. This is my 998th beer review on BeerAdvocate.com.
A: Poured into a Piraat tulip/snifter-type glass that has served me well all these years. Body is hazy orangeish-amber with a small white head.
S: Oxidation is noted in the nose - some wet cardboard and sherry-like scents. Also a lot of sweet malt in general, along with a hint of lime or citrus. Alcohol is noted as well.
T: Follows the nose a little - sherry-like from the oxidation and an almost vanilla-like sweetness. Surprised at the heat from the 8.5% ABV - it finishes a little bit hot. Lacking in hoppy bitterness, which is not surprising, but it doesn't finish in a cloyingly sweet way at all.
M: About medium in heft, maybe a little lighter. Smooth, bordering on syrupy, feel - which, combined with the ABV, makes it feel like a sipper despite the heft.
O: Interesting. Certainly drinkable, but I'm curious as to what the beer tasted like fresh (I didn't drink a bottle 8+ years ago). Glad I tried the experiment, but I'm not blown away by this one on 12/12/12. . . .
Serving type: bottle
12-13-2012 02:57:44 |
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stewart124
Ohio
4.15
/5
rDev
+6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4
Pours a hazy orange.
Nose has tons of lime and citrus in general. Some farmhouse characters, hay possibly.
Taste is sweeter than I anticipated but delicious. Almost a candied sweetness. Thin but very drinkable. The kaffir lime comes through strong and obviously fruity, citrusy in general.
This is delicious. I could put back a few of these. Alas, is not available. So easy drink. There is little to no trace of alcohol and it's hard to believe that this is 8.5%.
Serving type: bottle
12-11-2012 01:45:12 |
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Auracom
Illinois
2.55
/5
rDev
-34.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5
Talk about the most random bottle ever. Shared by Jeff near the end of a very long night. Thanks bro. 3-4 oz. poured into a FFF Teku on June 9th, 2012.
A - Very clear, bright-golden coloring. Great looking one finger eggshell head. Marginal lacing, slight legs.
S - Faded hops, a bit of wet cardboard, port-like oxidation, underlying Belgian yeast banana aroma. Part blah, part "Okay I can live with this."
T - Blended light fruit juice, pears, further oxidized cherry peel, definite clove and yeast flavor with a hint of buttered bread. Lightly bitter aftertaste.
M - Light-medium body, good carbonation for the age, semi-dry finish.
D - Ages more gracefully than I'd expected, but I'm not sure why something like this really exists. Despite its docile nature you can tell where this came from and compared to where it is now, it's not horrible.
Serving type: bottle
06-11-2012 16:33:55 |
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FARGO619
California
5
/5
rDev
+28.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5
Poured from a 22oz. bottle
A-Golden orange beer with a pure white head that stays lingered throughout and slowly dissipated with nice lacing throuhout-Vanilla aroma. Banana mildly sweet like silk candy.
T-Vanilla flavor, a with a spicy undertone.
M-Light body, still well carbonated.
D-Very smooth with hint of vanilla that was enjoyable all the way through. Very easy to drink. Can't wait to try this one again.
Serving type: bottle
Serving type: bottle
06-24-2011 12:55:48 |
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JohnGalt1
Idaho
3.5
/5
rDev
-10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
ditmier pulled this one out of his cellar for our recent VE tasting.. thanks buddy!!! I will save mine for the End of the World Party!!
Pours hazy orange... okay 1/2" head.. no real retention or lacing..
Nose is lite phenolic spicy... pretty sweet.. very dusty... bits of citrus.
Flavor is mildly oxidized.... some cardboard... but the backbone is still there.. sweet pale malts with some background pear ester.. banana shows more with warmth.. despite the dust, there is still some green apple..
Body and carbonation are still about right... but the oxidation is definitely there.. I doubt this was ever good after a year or so.
3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5
Oh well... we cracked it a couple of years early... I can only guess we did things right.
Serving type: bottle
11-07-2010 07:55:38 |
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womencantsail
California
3.63
/5
rDev
-6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Thanks to Gil for sharing this one.
A: The pour is a burnt orange color with some hints of gold and a finger's worth of white head.
S: The nose is quite sweet and surprisingly citrus heavy. A few more sniffs give off some vanilla, honey, and yeast esters (namely bananas).
T: A similar story on the palate. Sweet vanilla, orange honey, and banana along with some spicy esters and caramel malt. A touch of tropical fruit, too.
M: The body is on the light end of medium with a carbonation that seems to be a bit low too.
D: The low carbonation does not do much to quell the intense sweetness of this beer. Good flavors, but like drinking a sweet mead at times.
Serving type: bottle
09-10-2010 01:38:04 |
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ZX6Chris
California
4.6
/5
rDev
+17.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5
Shared at a Vertical Epic Tasting.
A-Golden orange beer with a pure white head that stays around. Nice lacing.
S-Vanilla aroma. Banana mildly sweet.
T-Vanilla flavor, a bit spicy. Estery and smooth.
M-Light body, still well carbonated.
D-Nice beer, I really enjoyed the vanilla and could drink this all day!
Serving type: bottle
08-26-2010 01:30:12 |
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chaz01
Ohio
4.1
/5
rDev
+5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5
Good sized (4-5 ounce) pour at a Stone Vertical Tasting Event sponsored by Belmont Party Supplies on 5/12/2010, served in a very cool Stone Vertical Epic tasting glass.
A: Bright clear deep golden color, Some foam oozes out the top of bottle as it's opened.
S: Minty lime aroma, reminds me of gin.
T: Floral and spicy, with mint leaves flavor.
M: Light bodied, low carbonation. Complex bittersweet aftertaste reminds me of drinking tea.
D: Beer if full of flavor and very unique. In reading Stones tasting notes, the minty leaf flavor that dominates is in reality the Kaffir lime leaf, which pleasantly dominates the taste. Perhaps a bit thin, but otherwise very interesting beer.
Serving type: bottle
05-16-2010 16:54:29 |
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brdc
Wisconsin
4.47
/5
rDev
+14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5
Large capped bottle, poured into a goblet.
Glowing golden in color, would be spectacular if it had a little bit more head; the minimal off-white collar produced is a bit disappointing.
Sweetish aroma, honey, tropical fruits, minimal yeastiness.
Nearly full bodied, the flavor is predominantly sweet; honey is one of the predominant notes, along with sweet bread, plums, sweet apples. It manages to not be overly sweet, somehow - perhaps due to the delicate spiciness and citric notes.
It is amazing this beer lasted this long, as based on prior reviews I thought this would be really bad by now. It seems to be improving, amazingly, but unfortunately, this one was my only bottle - none had earlier, none to be had later.
Serving type: bottle
03-09-2010 00:56:21 |
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mrmanning
Ontario (Canada)
3.5
/5
rDev
-10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Big thanks to Blankboy for being generous enough to send this my way. Pours a slight hazed orange with a creamy one finger froth, that recedes and leaves minute lace. Aromas are a blast of pineapples, yeasty esters, mint sprigs, banana. and malts. Sweet fruity mint flavours are nice. Lots of plum, pineapple, yeasty with white bread. Sugared citrus fruit finish. A good example, glad I drank it now, as I don't see it lasting too much longer. Thanks for the opportunity Paul!
Serving type: bottle
02-15-2010 00:10:11 |
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cjever19
California
4.13
/5
rDev
+5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5
My Uncle pulled out a treat from his cellar for Thanksgiving. He bought this new and had held on to it for 5 or so years. This review is from memory. Drank with 4 others out of
A- Light, amber with orange tint. Didn't get a big enough pour to get a nice head, but did leave a nice lace in my glass.
S- Didn't get much in the nose on this one.
T- HONEY and bananas, nicely balanced though. Not overly sweet Didn't taste the lime at all.
M- Very crisp and refreshing.
D- Amazing, would have loved to have some more of these.
Hopefully he bought a few and will pull another out in a few years. Aging nicely but definitely great now.
Serving type: bottle
12-03-2009 04:24:38 |
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